Is Janibek Alimkhanuly P4P?

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    That´s a bit of a stretch. Well, actually it´s ****ing bonkers what you wrote there.
    Sure, Porter was at the end of his career but he showed up in great condition and held his own. I think two judges had him down by just a point. But he wasn´t winning.
    And Porter had never been down the way Crawford put him down. So it makes sense that his dad stopped the fight. In the last few rounds, Porter took a lot of clean punches and was visibly drained.

    Accusing Kenny Porter of taking a bribe to "save the Spence" fight is the dumbest thing I have read here in a while.
     
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  2. DoubleG95Fanatic

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    Uhm........he probably just about gets in the top 50.
     
  3. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I think this is probably swinging too far in the opposite direction. He might not be top 10 right now but I certainly couldn't name 49 fighters I'd put ahead of him. Even BoxRec's deeply flawed P4P lists has him at 24 with a number of fighters placed ahead of him who have looked worse than he has. Janibek is a very skilled talent and scores excellently on the eye test even if his resume is shallow. Could you really name 49 fighters better than him?
     
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  4. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    It is, however he won't get the Canelo fight at 168. There may be some big names climbing up to 160 in the next few years that he could wait for as well.

    Either way he is a good fighter that will get his flowers sooner or later.
     
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  5. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing is a shady corrupt sport, the only thing that’s dumb is believing dodgy **** like this can’t happen. That’s truly naive stuff.

    Many had Porter up on the cards up until the “stoppage”. Porter was dropped twice both times got back and on steady feet, he looked arguably worse off after Spence dropped him.

    Get your head out of the sand
     
  6. beev11

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    He's probably about 15-20 right now imo. Very good fighter, but needs more quality wins
     
  7. Badbot

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    You stated that someone paid off Kenny Porter to sabotage this fight and to make sure Crawford wins. Kenny Porter... Shawn Porters father!
    Are you insane?
     
  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    So Kenny Porter can’t be paid off? People do things for money.

    The facts are Porter was dropped twice but both times got back on his feet and didn’t look dazed or wobbly at all. He had his feet completely under him. Then his dad threw the towel in all of sudden. Porter had a good case for winning the fight up until that point, and in the preceding rounds they were competitive not one sided or being dominated.

    Again, he was arguably more hurt after the Spence knockdown
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    Lol we're on about Janibek not Crawford.
     
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  10. Badbot

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    Yes, people can be paid off.
    But I don´t think you seem to grasp how ridiculous the following sounds: "Kenny Proter, the father of Shawn Porter was paid off to make sure Shawn Porter would loose his fight vs Crawford. In order to ensure that the Spence fight can be made."

    Also, you seem to overlook the fact that at the time, Bud vs Spence wasn´t signed or agreed to. Crawford was still with Top Rank. He then went independent as his contract ended.
    So who would manage to pay off Kenny Porter to sabotage his own son to ensure Crawford makes it to the negotiating table?... Why am I even asking this? :lol: This is ******ed. You have lost your mind.

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  11. MismatchHypejob

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    This is not that crazy of statement to be made, boxing has historically been a corrupt sport.

    Oh I didn’t realise you were at the negotiating table and behind the scenes?

    You don’t know what was discussed behind the scenes.

    Granted, neither do I, and obviously I can’t say Porters dad definitely took a bribe. He could have just been worried about Porters health. But given the big money fight on the line and given Porter didn’t look hurt at all after the 2 knockdowns and was arguably winning…I highly doubt that
     
  12. Badbot

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    :lol: The big money fight happened nearly 2 years after.

    Porter was at the end of his career and his father tried to protect his son. It seemed premature but it was the right call. Porter had never been down twice in a round and at that point in the fight, Crawford had taken full control and was landing a lot of clean power punches. And there was still half a round to go.
    And his father was right as Porter ended up retiring and he hasn´t looked back since.
     
  13. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    That doesn’t mean anything.
    Porters feet were very solid under him, they weren’t devastating knockdowns in the slightest, not big knockdowns. I’d rate them just above flash knockdowns. He got back straight on his feet afterwards.

    He genuinely looked in more trouble when he was knocked down by Spence.
    Again the fight was very competitive up until that point. In the round before allCrawford was doing touching him with light prodding punches, occasionally swiping him with his forearm/wrist. He landed only one notable punch in the round which was an uppercut and that was somewhat of graze. Porter wasn’t throwing volume, but landed actually quite a few hard shots in round 9

    Crawford was in control for round 10, but Porters a tough fighter and he didn’t look hurt at all. Just compare Porter with Fury, Fury was all over the place legs gone head gone everything, Porter wasn’t even close to that.

    Calling it a premature stoppage is an understatement
     
  14. Dorrian_Grey

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    Maybe, just maybe, Shawn's father didn't want to see his son get badly knocked out by one of the best finishers in the sport or receive a sustained beating over another 2 rounds at his age. Just think about how much Shawn got beaten up by Spence in the last 2 rounds after the KD, if you were Kenny would you wanna see your kid go through that again? Kenny also knew the kind of camp Shawn had had and the condition his son was in, I think he would be a good judge of when Shawn had had enough.
     
  15. Badbot

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    :loko2gaydude: You are absolutely wild.