The categories by which fights are scored I think vary a bit from federation to federation, but the classic categories are as follows: Effective Aggression Clean/Hard Punching Defense Ring Generalship and Knockdowns and point modifications NOW... Uysk outlanded Fury in 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 HOWEVER, he also outlanded Fury in Powerpunches (vs jabs) in 1,2,7,8,9,10,11,12. 3 and 4 were even in powerpunches, and Fury won 5-6. Thus, Usyk could have potentially stolen round 1, whereas it is much harder to make the argument that Fury stole any round with clean/hard punching. That is at least 7 rounds to 5 on effective aggression and clean/hard punching. Possibly 8-4. Usyk scored the knockdown for one extra point in the ninth for a 10-8 round. So, with the most objective categories and metrics, Usyk was up by at least 3, maybe 5 points. Now, defense and ring generalship are harder to measure...I don't think any case can be made that Fury dictated the pace of the fight, as he was running away and being outlanded. Is anyone making a defense argument here? Usyk outlanded Fury 170 to 157 overall, and outlanded Fury in power punches by a whopping 122 to 95. So, based on the metrics of boxing, it was good fight, and Fury had his moments, but no, not the razor thin fight some are talking about, and there is no argument at all that Fury won or even drew.
A fight can both be close and have a clear winner. To me it was a great close fight that Usyk clearly won.
I mean, I have just painstakingly derived that it was not. What metric, according to the rules of a governing body, did Fury make it close on?
Have to agree I have Usyk the first 2 rounds. I am perplexed when i see people score these for Fury. 3 was a swing round there i thought you could make a case for Fury narrowly winning it. 4-6 i gave to Fury though 4 was close. 7 was a close round that i thought Usyk edged it. 8,9 and 10 were easy Usyk rounds including 10-8 in the 9th. 11 was also Usyk. 12 was close that i gave to Usyk though it was close. I had it 8-4 for Usyk and you can make a case for 9-3 Usyk or 7-5 Usyk. Is 7-5 close? Not in this context. Usyk landed harder punches in majority rounds.
Haha, I didn’t say I thought Fury won but except the 9th every round was fairly even, even though I thought Usyk clearly won most of them. I don’t think you understand what I’m saying, I’m in no way saying Fury could have won, I’m agreeing with you that Usyk rightfully won but it was definitely not a schooling.
I think you guys analyzing the fight to death don’t really get a better picture of how the fight played out. You take away all the emotion and entertainment value and are only left with cold dry facts. That’s not why people watch sports.
Stop using Compubox, is garbage. We have AI now, which is 99,99% correct. Usyk outlanded Fury in Round 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 in both category landed and power/impactful punches. Other stats as defense, effective aggression, Ring Generalship are clearly Usyk's one as well. This content is protected DeepStrike is the best thing for stats in any given Combat Sports. Turki paid for it for that fight to have Live Stats, and people need to start using it, and Compubox needs to go away, as it's highly inaccurate Everyone who wants to read more about it, here it is: https://jabbr.ai/deepstrike
I don't see all these problems. It was clear to score: 1,2,7,8,9,10,11,12 usyk 3,4,5,6 fury. Why the fight seemed so close is because usyk had to dig deep and really change his gamelan after the sixth round because fury found his range and rhythm and looked completely in charge for 4 straight rounds. But usyk as the great fighter he is could of course adapt and change his gameplan, took risks and turned the fight around. Fury was not taking risks the whole fight and the great usyk was the whole fight in his face pressing fury and not giving him time to relax and forcing mistakes by fury.
Fury was certainly competitive. There was a spot where it looked like he might be on course to win. At the end Usyk pulled away but I'd say that this was one of his hardest fights.
There are semantics at play here depending on how folks interpret 'close'. A close score like an SD with 114/113 rounds Close, competetitive swing rounds that are hard to score and could be ' swing rounds' for either fighter Competetive rounds that are close, but clear to one fighter. Given the following:- There were arguably 2-4 close 'swing rounds' - I only had 2 but others seemed to think 2 and 12 were also 'swing' rounds Some other rounds were competetive with their own ebb and flow, depending on what you like to see The overall fight stats whilst clearly to one fighter were not a landslide and close enough to display the competetive well-matched nature of the encounter As a 12 round fight it was a very competetive fight with ebbs, flows and adjustments with both fighters showing 'levels' in different areas. Under a 10 point must system, it was NOT a close fight in terms of the outcome:- Most possibly favourable result to Usyk, giving him the nod in all generally accepted swing rounds:- 117-110 , 10 rounds to 2 with 10-8 9th Usyk : 1,2,3,7,8,9,10,11,12 Fury : 4,5,6 This gives Fury only rounds 4/5/6 only, which is a bit harsh on Fury and not how I scored it - I saw a couple of folks give Usyk the 4th but I can't see that even after multiple viewings. How I scored it, or what I would call an objective 'middle ground' take, with 'swing rounds' alternated between both fighters to try and eliminate bias, which I always strive for 116-111, 8 rounds to 4, with 10-8 9th Usyk : 1,2,3,8,9,10,11,12 Fury: 4,5,6,7 My swing rounds were 3 and 7, and they also were rounds with shifts in the fight IMO - Fury started finding his rythtym, timing Usyk midway through the 3rd, and reducing Usyks great bodywork in the 1st 2 rounds, but felt Usyk still nicked it. The 7th round was the inversion of this, where Fury started off with the momentum and better work, but Usyk made his adjustments, Fury started to tire and Usyk arguably nicked it - but I gave it to Fury as I'd given Usyk the 3rd. IMO this also tells the story of the fight in many ways - Usyks starts really well taking centre ring, pushing Fury back with excellent bodywork (that was pivotal later IMO), and the most eyecatching backhands in the rounds. Then Fury takes over, and actually starts to boss Usyk with a big round 6 - but visibly starting to blow and look uncomfortable with the pace. Usyk capitializes, makes his adjustments and peaks in that awesome round 9. And whilst Fury recovered REALLY well, major props, he didn't win any other round - sure 11th and 12th were more competetive than 9 & 10, but Usyk still clearly took those rounds. Most possibly favourable result to Fury, giving him the nod in all generally accepted swing rounds (3,7,12):- 113-114, 6 rounds each, with 10-8 9th Usyk : 1,2,8,9,10,11 Fury : 3,4,5,6,7,12 I personally find this really hard to swallow - more so than the 117-110 score, it means giving all swing rounds to the Fury, and if I had to really say honestly, Usyk has more of a case for 3/7 & 12 than Fury does. Now I know some folks will say they scored rounds 1 or 2 or even 11 to Fury, but I jsut can't see that, they are not reasonable to me - my 'range' of scoring has to be grounded in what I observe, and I can 'stretch' to close swing rounds changing at a push, but clear rounds I've scored to one fighter stay that way. So to see it as a close 'score' IMO you'd have to really favour Fury in some way and be missing on the judging criteria for what Usyk was doing in those swing rounds
