The ONLY fighter that should be a mandatory challenger is Parker. Every other mandatory is a joke!

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as i remember i had Zhang winning by a round or 2 against Hrgovic. Didn't bother to score Parker vs Zhang, but there was 2 KDs, and literally Zhang let the fight slide. I though Parker won, except for the 2 KDs, and maybe some more rounds for Zhang i don't remember it anylonger.
    To be fair to Zhang though i though that Zhang let Parker off the hook. He was very arrogant after the KD and was acting like he already won the fight, which for me is what lost him the fight. I would love to see a rematch in that fight. Against both to be fair.
    But you also had to mention that there was 2 years difference(19 months to be exact), and Zhang cardio and attributes are going to get worst and worst each year.

    Anyway this ain't up for debate Hrgovic is IBF mandatory for a good 2+ years now. And IBF belt hasn't been defended for exactly 4 years. Pulev was the last IBF mandatory, and this is 100% unacceptable.

    Usyk was already been told that he will be stripped by IBF if he decides to follows up with the rematch, even before the first fight with Fury took place.
    Usyk and mostly his team was played by Fury for good 2 years, so i don't see a reason why the whole f**** division should be put on stale because of them.

    WBC hasn't enforced a mandatory for the last 2 years as well, when they had a specific rule for each year their champion to face 1 mandatory or so + to have 1-2 voluntary defenses. Something like that.
    We absolutely know how corrupt the sport is, and especially WBC, but this is beyond ridiculous.
    WBO hasn't enforce mandatory for good 3 years now, but that was Usyk, who wasn't really a mandatory, he just uses his right to fight the WBO Champion in the upper division. So essentially it's 6 years if i'm not wrong, and the last one was Povetkin.

    The whole reality is Fury **** on the whole division for the last couple of years and forced everyone to be super inactive, because people were waiting on him to Unify, while he was messing around with AJ first, than Wilder, and then Usyk.

    I don't see why the Mandatory challengers should be made to wait even more.
    As the fight is now being officially canceled for October, and we don't even know if it will happen. It took Fury 2+ good years to get in the ring with Usyk, and now they are targeting the fight possibly for December or even early 2025.
    Let them fight if Usyk really wants to give the rematch to that Fraud, but strip him of the belts, and i would say not just the IBF, but the other 2 as well(as he defended his WBA last year, and that one is protected for awhile).
     
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  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    What I'm trying to say is no one on this list deserves to be mandatory!! Besides Parker as he has 2 recently good wins under his belt.

    I don't care if Hrgovic has been mandatory, he's done nothing to deserve it!

    If Hrgovic is struggling against old man Zhang he's getting destroyed vs Fury or Usyk.

    I'd even back Parker to beat him.
     
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  3. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Makh was overhyped but Zhang wasn't? So Parker beat a 40 year old overhyped Zhang and a 38 year old overhyped faded Deontay Wilder.
     
  4. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk struggled against old man Derek Chisora but I guess that is okay but he is Usyk right?
     
  5. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Zhang isn't great, Wilder isn't great etc. Neither Parker or Hrgovic have fought great fighters because none of the current heavyweights are great.
     
  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    If you think Usyk struggled against Chisora then you're watching a different sport.
     
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  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Comparing Makh to Wilder and Zhang is ridiculous. Zhang destroyed Joyce and fought a good fight against Hrgovic and arguably deserved a draw.

    Makh's best win was Takam and he got annihilated vs Kabayel. It wasn't even close.

    Wilder wasn't overhyped, he was rusty due to inactivity.

    Parker proved himself way above the level of Zhang, Hrgovic did not.
     
  8. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Usyk landed 20 more punches in 12 rounds against old Chisora. But as I said before and i will say again Usyk fanboys are so delusional that you can't take anything they say as being serious. Usyk struggled with a mediocre Chisora.
     
  9. Gog97675

    Gog97675 Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Wilder is 38. He is done. Zhang never beat anybody besides slow Joe Joyce. Zhang beating Joyce doesn't make Zhang great. Parker beating a 40 year old Zhang and 38 year old Wilder doesn't make him great.
     
  10. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do think Hrgovic was the clear winner against Zhang. But he needs to win convincingly against Dubois to even start considering him for a title shot in my opinion.

    I think him and Parker should fight for the IBF title if Usyk gets stripped. I rather don’t have Usyk stripped though.

    Parker deserves a title shot more then anyone else now at the moment.

    I think Kabayel should fight the winner of Wilder vs Zhang. That would be a nice high profile fight for him. And Kabayel is a chance for Zhang/Wilder to get back some legitimacy.
     
  11. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Serious question here:

    You think a fight with Whyte has any meaning now that he is even more of a fat, unmotivated slob? Has Whyte learned how to block an uppercut yet?
     
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  12. Robotman9000

    Robotman9000 New Member Full Member

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    Zhang only lost by a cpl points vs Parker but KOd Joyce 2x after he KOd Parker. If Zhang beats Wilder I don't care either way
     
  13. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed...Altough I'd like to see an AJ-Parker fight first...
     
  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And why wouldn't Parker want to avenge that loss? Whyte also still has plenty of big fanbase, and that one will sell well. And if Parker may an easy work of Whyte, better for him.

    As far as the initial question i don't rank Whyte at all. I also think he lost to Franklin and should have eat a huge ban for the X failed drug test once again.
     
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  15. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parker is not better than Hrgovic and that is a fact and no one mentions his poor performances against Junior Fa, Massey and the first fight against Chisora...
     
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