Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II & Paddy Donovan vs. Lewis Ritson + Cully vs. Patera RBR.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: I think OG Bob wants smoke with everyone. He's feisty as hell. Feistiest 90 + y/o ever
     
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  2. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Senility at play with the Bobfather.
     
  3. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    Disgraceful behavior from Arum. They should never give him a mic again.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was thinking the same during the fight. Catterall reminds me of early JMM in that he's a pure counter puncher and can't take the lead in fights, which is why when he had Taylor hurt he didn't go for the finish as he needs aggressive opponents to work off, if they don't lead he doesn't do much.

    Luckily JMM learned to be more aggressive and lead more, Catterall will need to do the same. Fact is people including judges just give rounds for opponents walking forward and hitting air because they think that's somehow dictating the fight and so I could easily see further controversial fights in Catterall's career if he doesn't learn to be more than just a good counter puncher.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I thought Taylor won 5 of the last 6. I don´t see how the judges could possibly give him only 3 rounds. Dude never stood a chance.
     
  6. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was deffo closer than the scores suggest, but think it comes down to 2 things

    1) Judges would have come under fire if Catterall lost another close controversial decision - most folks have given Catterall the nod - I scored it 115-113
    2) Catterall hurt Taylor more clearly than the other way round, and if he had more lead skills could potentially have stopped him at a couple of points if he could have sustained things

    Regardless of whether Taylor made weight well or not, he is noticably less effective than he used to be at 140 - his frame is 147 at minimum, possibly even 154, and he should have went to 147 after Ramirez IMO.

    That said, I suspect there are other issues with TTT's decline outside of just the weight, it can be seen from the multiple change in trainers IMO.

    Regardless of anyone that says that Josh wasn't ever any good and it's just a weak division etc, his head movement was non-existant last night as were his reactions, and that was not the case prior to the first Cat fight - he has looked noticably less skillfull and effective from a defensive pov and his punch resistance and strength seem a lot worse also - though it's also fair to say that both Catterall and Lopez were probably always poor style matchups for him
     
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  7. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the hell were you watching? Fairly close fight but clear Catterall win
     
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  8. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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  9. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Agreed.
    I said years ago that Ben Davison has ruined Taylor. He regressed at a rapid pace even before unifying.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    I had it 115-113 for Jack. Though a draw is fair and I was rooting for Jack. Aggressors wins rounds. Manny Steward told Marquez he only had himself to blame for not getting the Pacquiao decisions because he was too passive.

    I don't mean that a fighter can only walk forward and eat leather and hit air and win rounds. But if a guy is constantly moving forward the whole round and pressing the action and landing then he deserves the fight.
     
  11. ruffryders

    ruffryders Member Full Member

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    Are you talking about Tyson fury?
     
  12. ruffryders

    ruffryders Member Full Member

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    this is 100% true
     
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  13. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? That’s incredibly kind.
     
  14. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Catterall 7 rounds clear. (1,4,5,6,9,10,11)
    Taylor 3 rounds clear (3,7,8)
    I think there were 2 even rounds which could’ve gone either way. 2nd and 12th.

    Absolutely no case for a JT win or draw. None…..unless you’re a Scot.
     
  15. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor has fallen off a cliff. Quick and steep decline