I rate USYK in the top 10 ATG in Hws history

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  1. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    Ali, Foreman, Lewis, Marciano, Joe Louis, Holmes and Usyk will be there with them.
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali, Louis, Lewis, Holmes, Wladimir, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Marciano, Dempsey, Frazier, Johnson.

    Sorry he doesn't rate above any of these fighters certainly not in the top 10.
     
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    Holyfield is juicer so I don't rate him as ATG
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Top 20 maybe top 15 but outside top 10 which is very high praise.
     
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    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    I find it very hard to rate Usyk at HW. H2H he's clearly up there but he has such a short resume due to starting at HW so late.

    Clearly combined CW and HW he's top.
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is not an ATG at Heavyweight hes an ATG in a P4P sense.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's always hard to compare accomplishments over different eras as it's subjective. I would say he's a lock in for top 20, top 10....harder to justify, it's a competitive era but not a great one and I think many heavyweights have accomplished more. At best I could have him 10th, knocking Wlad off my 10th spot but I dunno, Wlad had such a long reign and while Usyk has been dominant since moving up, he's still only had 6 fights at heavyweight.

    I say we wait until he retires to fully assess where he stands as how the division plays out after he retires may effect how people view his standing. For example if Joshua goes on to beat Fury and then dominates the division until he ages out it adds too the Joshua wins and you could rank Usyk higher, but if Fury and Joshua lose to Hrgovic or another up and comer it would make those wins less impressive and add to the idea this era was not great.
     
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    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    He entered the best 10 ever, maybe 8th or 9th but he could make even better until his retire.

    I think he aims for the best 5 ever...still 4 or 5 remarkable defences.

    In the end he would be together with Ali, Louis, Marciano and Lewis. Then Foreman and Holmes or Holyfield.
     
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  9. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    If Usyk beats Parker and Hrgovic and one of them goes onto greatness, it will only enhance his hw legacy. In fact, if he beats 3 legit top 10 guys, i could make a case for top 8 at heavy. Right now he is in the top 20 but not top 10. Not enough fights at heavy just yet. But a hell of a fighter.
     
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    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Juicer? He had serious heart valves problems and you are thinking about his use of PEDs. Lol.
     
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Bit early for that kind of judgement and making a top 10 for HW is always a difficult task because of how many great fighters could very easily qualify for such a place. I love Usyk and believe he is an ATG, but he probably hovers somewhere in the top 20 next to guys like Patterson and Corbett instead of Ali and Louis, more of a middle of the pack guy right now, rather than a front runner.
     
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    Couple of solid defences, maybe a parker, hrgovic, even a wilder, etc. definitely top 10
     
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    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope.
     
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    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Off course.

    He is olimpic gold medalist
    He is undisputed unified cruserweight champion who beat all big names on best era of this category
    He is undisputed and unified Hw champion who beat 2 best names of this Era- both very good boxers.

    He done this all in enemy territory and being smaller "star"

    He is for sure one of the greatest boxer who ever try this sport.

    He done all what You can done in boxing sports. You are just crazy if You dont put him with best on top of the top
     
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    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Topics like this is bad for boxing.

    Usyk did not even had 7 fights at HW and he is ATG ?

    His resume at HW is not that good. He beat AJ and he was already number 1 ? How ?

    Before AJ, he was "too small, too weak"
     
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