Tyson Furys resume is better than Anthony Joshuas

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  1. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    You're just mad and know that Fury & Usyk are retiring leaving your bum bodybuilder with no legacy.

    Eddie Hearn and his toyboy AJ ringside at Fury Usyk like a pair of rodents looking for scraps. That's how you come across. Desperate.
     
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  2. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    You forget big important thing.

    Joshua fight with anybody without problem. Fury avoid many fights, wait for his moment and more...

    Yes. Joshua lost more times but also he took all fight again and again.
    Fury build his name on Klitschko fight where he shame way avoid reematch (he sign contract with quarantee of took 2 fight because probably bigger money) and on Wilder trilogy where he even dont face nr 1/2 in the division because when they fight first time Joshua was MUCH MUCH bigger fight.

    He lost also to Usyk as Joshua but You will forever talking about Ruiz...

    Fury just had more luck. In serious sport he should lost Mcdermott in first fight and probably should lose one of some other fight without hate (Wallin, Wilder 1, Ngannou)

    Soo Yes
    Joshua have better resume and represent Hw better than lazy gypsy.
    He even save face of boxing with Ngannou after Fury start massive joke about boxing after his performance.

    I dont write that for sure Joshua is better than Fury but for sure he done much more for Hw than gypsy queen
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Muhahhaha, who is mad buddy. You switched the pancake like 20 time, going from Fury will destroys Usyk, to now need a second chance to be able to do, what he can't.
    Your boy was smashed from 1 part of the ring to another, and needed full paid referee and judges to save his *** infront of the world.

    You are a disgrace to what a truly boxing fan should be. You only care about a proven drug cheat, and don't want to see the best fighting the best at their best.
    That's why you make every excuse in the book, when your hero ducked Usyk for 2 straight years.

    AJ goes 24 rounds with the best Usyk at HW division, when Usyk was significantly younger at 34 and 35, and your boy was smashed around the ring from almost a shot version of Usyk.

    The rematch is not certain, so don't be so sure we will ever seen a rematch.
    AJ is 10x. time the warrior and fighter your hero pretend to be. He has never ever been. He always pick the fights at the right time for him, and not when the opportunity comes.

    Even if by a miracle he beats Usyk, and decide to retire, he will always be remembered as the guy who ducked AJ his whole career, and was a proven PED cheater, and a proven cheater inside the ring.

    No go cry into the corner once again.
    Trolls like you constantly poking at people are the reason why no one likes Fury, and you will get plenty of Karma threads.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq Oleksandr Usyk Undisputed HW Champion Full Member

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    We got the best fighting the best

    Fury Usyk

    & for the rematch

    Usyk Fury

    Then the world of boxing will enter a dark period as they both retire and leave the mediocre behind.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We already see that, and your boy was smashed. Now he needs to grows balls and face AJ for who is the second best of this generation, though we already knew who is. AJ is smashing to pieces. Inside 3-4 rounds, and won't be pretty.
     
  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    - Joshua stopped a better Klitschko in a great fight and was willing to rematch him, Fury edged a distracted Klitschko with a dull defensive approach, then failed a PED test and twice ducked out of the rematch

    - Joshua beat Wallin easily, Fury struggled and is lucky the referee didn't stop the fight

    - Joshua did what a pro boxers is supposed to do with Ngannou, Fury lost and was bailed out by corrupt judges!

    - Joshua beat Parker, Parker defeated Fury's best win (Wilder)

    - Fury would have been stopped by Usyk with honest referee, Joshua outboxed but not stopped

    - Fury fought clubfighters like Seferi and Schwarz, while a younger Joshua was fighting contenders like Pulev, Ruiz, and Povetkin

    - Joshua has never tested positive for PEDs, Fury's win over Klitschko is overshadowed by his positive test for steroids

    - Joshua has always been willing to fight anybody, while Fury 1) twice avoided the rematch with Klitscho, 2) avoided Joshua, and 3) delayed the fight with Usyk for nearly two years, while fighting old faded Chisora and MMA fighter Ngannou.
    The biggest and ugliest rodent I've ever seen is Tyson Fury.
     
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  7. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this you speaking from the afterlife, because I heard your spirit had passed while watching Fury get slapped from post to post by Usyk.
     
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  8. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    I think now that Fury has lost to a guy Joshua also lost to, Joshua wins the resume argument.

    on paper Fury has the better win over Wlad but one could easiliy argue that Joshua beat a better version. Wlad was older and inactive but he had never really retired and stayed in shape. He also clearly went into the fight with the intention of giving everything he had, unlike in the Fury fight where his passiveness cost him his belts. Joshua was also still fairly green going into that fight. his best opponent and toughest test up to that point was against Whyte. Despite this I'd still give this one to Fury, he was a major underdog who shut Klitschko down and ended his reign in his backyard, no matter how boring and actionless the fight was.

    They both have wins over Whyte and an argument can be made either way as to which is better. Whyte was younger and in better physical condition against Joshua. He was green but so was Joshua. Against Fury he was far more experienced and had beaten guys like Parker and Povetkin, but he'd been knocked out twice, dropped a good few times, and been in a lot of tough fights. in his fight against Franklin following the Fury loss he looked pretty bad and arguably lost.

    Fury's wins over Wilder have almost certainly aged badly due to the Parker loss. If he had fought guys of Parkers level previously and beaten them then you could put this loss purely down to age, but his best win was an old Ortiz and outside of that there isn't much of anything. Parker like Wilder only ever held one belt, but in his career he fought and beat better opposition. beat Ruiz, Chisora, Takam, Zhang and Wilder himself in a shutout. He didn't have his belt as long as Wilder but that's at least partly because he fought Joshua in only his 3rd title defense. For my money he ranks higher than Wilder all time, and thus I hold Joshua's victory over him, as better than Fury's over Wilder.

    Outside of those 3 guys, Fury's resume gets pretty thin. has some decent wins over Chisora and Cunningham but that's about it. The Wallin and Ngannou fights also do have to be brought up. Those guys didn't have much or any credibility as opponents until Fury chose to cherry pick them, struggled against them, and thus gave them credibility which helped Joshua's resume even more.

    Joshua still has more meat on his resume. Had the least controversial win over Povetkin (Klitschko held a lot, Pov was older and was recovering from covid against Whyte in the rematch). He beat Takam, an older Pulev, undefeated Breazale and Martin, Franklin coming off the Whyte fight, Wallin coming off of a win over Gassiev, and Ruiz. His loss to Ruiz should also be brought up as Fury was never beaten as decisively as that but even then as others have said, he avenged the loss in a shutout and Fury arguably should have losses to John McDermott and 0-0 novice Ngannou. at least Ruiz was a legitimate contender who has a win over Ortiz and arguably should've beaten Parker.

    They both lost to Usyk so not much to say there.
     
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Case A:

    39 year old unified champion, defeated two undefeated contenders in the past year, on the p4p list at #2, fighting at home, 10 years unbeaten, massive favorite.

    Case B:

    41 year old beltless challenger, coming off a wide decision loss, two years of ring rust (the longest gap without fighting in his entire career), fighting away for the first time in a long time.

    Imagine thinking that Case B a better win.

    Whyte was a prospect at 16-0 and gathered a lot of very good pro experience before he faced Fury. He got stopped by Povetkin before, but went on to decisively win the rematch. The Whyte who faced Fury certainly defeats a green 16-0 prospect Whyte, no question.
     
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  10. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh no!
    Joshua's resume is better. Fury might be the better boxer, but since he rarely steps up to a challenge we'll never know what could've been.

    They bothe got Klitschko on thier resume.
    Fury won in what might be described as a staring contest and Joshua rose from the canvas in a fight of the year candidate fight.

    Fury has 2-0-1 with Wilder and then not so much.

    Joshua beat Povetkin (who no one can rate lower than Wilder!), Parker and Pulev.

    Depth wise Joshua is miles ahead. They share Whyte and Wallin. Furys got Cunningham and Chisora while Joshua has Ruiz, Martin, Helenius, Takam...
     
  11. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you take on all challengers, you'll eventually get "blips" on your record. Fury's a great boxer and perhaps better than Joshua, but he has been fighting more with himself than taking on challengers in the ring. Unfortunately for all.
     
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  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Povetkin that Joshua beat was not as good as the Wilder that Fury beat. Parker was not as good as Wilder (I know he beat him head to head)
     
  13. snafu

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    Also you forgot, the great GK did not lose to snickers eating Ruiz in the most embarrassing US debut of all time it took Usyk and voodoo to give him the first loss. Fat boy Ruiz that got called up on two weeks notice that didn't even train beat chicken legs AJ
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is Parker not as good as Wilder ? Parker has beaten Ruiz, Zhang, Wilder, Takam, Chisora, which is considerably better than Wilder's resume.

    Parker is a better all round boxer, better stamina, more durable, better resume, and has actually beaten Wilder in a H2H match up.
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    your post is great comedy, typical fury propaganda.