GOAT == Usyk

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lordlosh, May 18, 2024.



Who won after rewatching the fight

  1. Usyk

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  2. Fury

    4.2%
  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    You're unnaturally against a rematch with a level of vitriol levelled at Fury that's rarely been matched on here. He lost a competitive fight. I've got little to no interest in seeing Uysk beat Hrgovic or Dubois again despite the controversy in beating the latter. Bringing up silliness about how unpleasant John Fury and the like are makes you look like you're worried and want Uysk to duck him, not spite him. Uysk's in the driving seat now and should be the champion that people have wanted, I personally have no doubt he will and can't wait for the second fight.

    I also don't see how a Fury Uysk rematch derails a Joshua bout. I'd happily see Joshua in with Joyce/Dubois/Hrgovic and even Wilder at a push in the interim whilst the rematch and if Fury were to win rubber match happens.
     
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  3. tragedy

    tragedy Member Full Member

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    Yeah I definitely can't wait to watch Joshua fight a 38/39 year old Usyk
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duck? How can Usyk duck someone who he just smashed from pillar to post ?!!!
    Again you either not reading, or just selective choosing what to say.

    Fury doesn't deserve rematch, for all his ducking and stalling the division for 2 years. If he wasn't ducked Usyk for 2 years i wouldn't have mind seeing the rematch.

    It's you that are obsess with the rematch. Fury already trying to delay the rematch to try to age Usyk even more. The clause is for October. Fury already backtracking from it, talking about December and next year potentially.
    Usyk is in his very right to say NO and f**** you serial ducker.

    And where did you read i say Usyk should face Hrgovic or Dubois again. And still Hrgovic will be more deserving, and actually bring something to Usyk resume, as Usyk already beat the serial ducker.
    I'm claiming that Usyk should retire, as he completed Boxing, simple as it.

    You just want him to get beaten, simple as it. He is 38 years old in a couple of months, with a young man style, in a division where he give every single advantages you can give in a Boxing Ring.

    Fury - Ngannou was competitive fight, that Fury lost, maybe the ducker should give Ngannou rematch? Same for the Wallin fight.

    And you had to be casual to wonder why Fury will duck AJ and never fights him if he fights Usyk again.
    Hell even if he doesn't fight him, the chances are higher that he won't fight AJ, than to actually step in the ring with him.


    And again Usyk ain't 32, he is 38(soon), and has proved what needs to be proved. Undisputed and beat the best in the division without zero controversy. Rematch should only be needed if there was controversy in the first fight or it was razer close. There wasn't any on that in that fight, hell that should have been TKO WIN for Usyk and everyone knows it.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    You can 100% duck a rematch. Rahman tried his damnedest to duck Lewis after knocking him to next week in South Africa. Lewis ducked the Vitali rematch after scoring a legitimate stoppage on cuts. Fury schooled Wlad and ducked the rematch.

    And no, I don't especially want Uysk to be beaten although it's interesting that you say that as it further confirms what I suspected, that you think it might happen. That's what makes the rematch so appealing, there isn't an obvious outcome in my opinion. What I want are great match ups and I think Fury Uysk is a great match up. If he retires now then it's good for him but worse for fans and the division.
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    What? Why would Joshua get a third shot? Uysk's time left is limited.
     
  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good rational post, from someone not unhinged
    I agree with the above
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I say let Fury fight Joshua and earn his rematch Fury hasn't beaten a notable opponent since Whyte in 2022.

    Parker deserves a big fight for his recent run of form so let him and Usyk fight.

    Makes sense to me Parker gets his shot which he deserves and we get a big fight in UK between Joshua/Fury to decide who's the best British Heavyweight of this era.
     
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  9. rb94boxing

    rb94boxing New Member banned Full Member

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    @everyone

    The reason why many Usyk fans (including myself) don't want a second Fury fight is simple: every time Usyk fights a popular, $-generating (British) heavyweight, there is a blatant attempt to rob him. There was the Howard Foster card at Tottenham, the Glenn Feldman card in Jeddah and finally the Craig Metcalfe card in Riyadh. Usyk is brilliant, but these attempts have become more and more desperate. Eventually one will get him - and one is all it takes

    So no, as a boxing fan I don't want to see a great fighter with a truly great legacy robbed

    It's really that simple
     
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, but the guy is a Fury fan, decent one, which is a rare occasion, still don't want to admit it, and pray the rematch happen and Fury to win by all means necessary.

    And it's not just that. Fury messed the whole division for 2-3+ good years.
    If the fight had happen in 2022, as it should i would have no problem with the rematch. But Fury choose, not his father or someone else, Fury himself choose to duck Usyk in order to age him out, so in my eyes he doesn't deserve a s****.

    He actually deserve the worst thing, Usyk to laugh at him, make him wait and never give him a rematch. What Fury did to Klitschko.
    It's funny though he act as neutral, and say that Fury schooled Klitschko, when this was the worst HW fight in the history, with not much separating them. 115-112, which should have been even closer, as the judges somehow gave Fury the last round, which was clear Klitschko round. This fight was decided by Klitschko inactivity, not that Fury was "so good".

    Against Usyk he lost fair and square, way wider, but somehow he get the node on the WBC judge, which just proves our point.

    And it's not just that, but the referee as well. Who is doing everything in his power to help Fury.

    Krassyuk by the way has said that if it's up to him, he won't give Fury the rematch. I hope he persuade Usyk to not give him the rematch at all.
    Going to be a laugh.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah and i'm tired of this British privilege with the rematches clauses. You had to beat them 2 times in order to move from them, and all they need to do is to rob you once and you are closed book for them.
    Absolutely pathetic.

    Should i even mention all the talk from Fury, aka 70-30 no rematch.
    " If i lost to Usyk than i'm no good. " "This will be the easiest fight of my career'. Confirmed by his promoter/manager, brothers/father, etc.
    Then why the heck he needs a rematch?
    Also the "losers go home with d**** in his hands".
    "When i beat you I will vacate all the titles, so no need for rematch"
    And all the insults to Usyk and his team, all of you **** will work for me when i beat the middleweight, rabbit, bla, bla, bla, bla.

    Funny how this fanboys now are crying for rematch, when they were so sure that Fury would beat Usyk with ease, and the forum will be in tears, well who's the one with the tears, h ?
     
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  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Anal probing
     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. That chapter is over, Joshua had his chance twice.
     
  14. Sugar 88

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    Parker? For what? Beating the ghost of the overhyped Wilder? Getting a controversial decision against an old Zhang? Man, the hoops people are jumping through for Fury Uysk 2 to not happen make me think perhaps I should have a bet on Fury to score the upset in the rematch when it happens. His fans are acting like he got lucky in the first bout and want him nowhere near a rematch when he won pretty decisively. Absolutely bizarre.