Why does Wilder get so much credit for the 3rd Fury fight ?

We're going to do this childish propaganda nonsense? Who are you convincing, me or yourself?


Let me know when you've given your balls a tug and are ready for big boy conversations.

 

Not convincing anyone, just showing you the facts. Nothing more, nothing less. Seems like you're having a bad day.

 

I don't think I replied to you on this before.

I was going to say, Fury from Wilder 3 just isn't the same fighter that the Fury from the Ngannou fight is.

You're putting much too much stock into weight. Fury weighing the same in both fights isn't the same thing as Fury being the same in both fights. Rewatch them if you disagree. In Fury vs Ngannou, Fury was ****ing pathetic. Didn't look fit enough to get out of bed let alone box, whereas Fury Vs Wilder 3 he was just in sub-optimal shape, not couch potato shape. He probably didn't train as hard as he should have for Wilder 3, but he didn't train AT all for Ngannou, completely looked past him.

 

You are claiming this clip cuts off right at the moment I spoke to by coincidence or oversight? That's a rhetorical questions we both know the answer to.


It's okay to drop the pretense and speak plainly fella.


I've clearly seen it. You've posted what happens right before what I spoke to. hmmm. Would it be reaching to assume your sole reason for posting that video clip that cuts off right before the sequence of events I claimed an inconsistency lies was because that's where Deontay looks worse?

Are we going to drum up a totally innocent excuse for using a clip in response to a statement that doesn't actually show the events described in that statement instead of giving our balls a tug and saying what we have to say plainly and directly like the grown ass men we are?

 

You said Wilder never got laid out like Fury did in the first fight. Well, he did. He got up afterwards (like Fury did in the first fight), but after going limp and having suffered terrible damage throughout the entire fight. The referee was right to call it off.

The situations in Fury-Wilder 1 and Fury-Wilder 3 are completely different, which is why the referees didn't make the same decision. Fury suffered 1 knockdown before round 12 in the first fight, but other than that he didn't really take any damage and was on his way to winning a decision, which is why he got the chance to get up. Also wasn't a 14 second count btw:

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Wilder in fight 3 on the other hand, had been dropped twice prior to the KO, had been wobbled and hurt a huge amount of times and was taking a bad beating in the last round.

Can't compare those situations.

 

He went out on his shield in the 3rd bout, that was probably the best fight out if the trilogy for me.

 

Wilder roided up and still got his ass handed to him by a softer and lesser prepared Fury than the second fight. He's gets way too much credit, and he still took the loss like an absolute *****.

 

Exactly - take your pick, it's either good for both or good for neither.

Dispute exactly how bad Fury was in those respective fights if you must - but he was clearly way off his best in Wilder #1 and #3 and against Ngannou.

If Ngannou is complete trash because Fury was so far off fit, then Wilders reputation should be negatively impacted for losing against unfit Fury (arguably twice).

My opinion is quite consistent - I do think how unfit Fury was able to be and still beat Wilder says a lot about how good Wilder wasn't...

I also find the complete demolition in #2 to be a mixed bag in and of itself - whilst it's very impressive that Fury could adopt a totally new style so quickly, a serious contender shouldn't be getting beaten by a guy who's switched to a style he's unfamiliar with and hasn't been tested with when it counts... It's just not done because it's not smart - and to say Fury had absolutely mastered it in around 3 months with Steward just isn't plausible, IMHO.

So even in #2, Fury can't have been at his absolute most effective - impressive though the domination was.


It just all adds up to what any honest commentator already knows - Wilder punches ****ing hard, but he's extremely limited beyond that.

 

I didn't realise he got any credit for it lol.

 

I didn't see anyone rate him after that apart from Dribble lol

 

Okay buddy, I can see you refuse my offer to drop pretenses and so I am forced to shift gears and speak your language:


Oh yeah, I totally see how they were different situations and how you got lost. Wilder hit the ground and got up with no count. Tyson Fury was given the benefit of doubt. You're 100% correct about that. Likewise, no one felt the need to edit videos in such a way as to distort the truth afterward. Very different situations, and if you don't agree it's only because you suffer from tiny pee-pee. Still going on? Bro must got tiny dong.





I don't really care what direction you want to take this but I'll be straight here again and tell you, seems pretty obvious we both saw those fights, have different opinions on what took place, and won't ever find a middle ground, which is fine by me dude. but for me to ever get there with you and say that without me having to force the moment like I am presently you'll have to stop being a little fairy and speak plainly like a grown ass man.


Let me just, redo, our entire interaction ins grown ass man:

Me - Reckon Wilder might be bitter he wasn't given the chance Fury was but I don't see why fans would be.

You - He might be but he shouldn't be

Me - Hell you might be right.


get me? I don't really actually even give a **** about the argument you're presenting. It's your form I don't like, it's all sorts of powderpuffed. ***** ****. twinkledtoed sallied. Just say TF you want to say and be done homie. I'll show you how to do that too. Don't matter TF you respond with, my ass done with this thread, absolutely 0 shits given if you agree with my opinion or if I've propagated my opinion onto anyone.

Hope you give them balls a tug son.

 

Heart?
I thought fury was unmotivated, out of shape and wilder was roided up for the trilogy. His delts were about to explode

 

Fury just got fatter and fatter since leaving Davison.
Uncle Meth was a terrible coach but at least he kept Fury's weight down better.