Who had the most impressive performance in today's fights?

Ball and Dubois for me.

Ball showed alot of grit and determination to beat a talented Ford in the best fight of the night. Even if I had Ford winning the fight the sheer effort from Ball you have to stand up and applaud it.

And Dubois proving the doubters wrong who questioned his heart honestly it's one of the best turn arounds I've seen, Dubois who was known as a bit of a quitter has put those ghosts to rest with his last 2 performances he can only grow in confidence from here on.

 

Again, an example where a fighter could not continue and only then did it lead to a no-contest.

When was the last time in MMA someone deliberately cheated and got DQ´d? It´s pretty ****ing rare, just like in boxing.
So to act as if in MMA the commissions do a better job is just laughable.

And here! Moloney vs Franco played out a lot like Holland vs Daukaus. The result was a NC.

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Another NC due to headbutting.

 

There's no need for this agitated "go watch the fight again" tone, mate. We agree most of the time, and then the one time I don't agree with you, you pull this "go and do this and that" thing on me? Please don't; it's not a good look.

Also, it seems that Hrgovic should go and watch the fight again then as he never mentioned anything about deliberate headbutts, nor did his team. Don't you think he would say something if it was that bad and blatant from Dubois? He was there, you say he lost as a result, yet Hrgovic, a very confrontational and talkative character, won't say a word about it? I don't think so. And I say all this as someone who doesn't even like Dubois one bit and who rooted for Hrgovic last night.

 

You failed to read and understand my point. In MMA there is no A side treatment by the referee. In Boxing you land 20-30 headbutts and lowblows, and the ref just quietly whisper careful, careful or pick them up.
Nothing happen, and the right fighter can get away with murder, like we see it yesterday.

There is no such thing in MMA. Referee separate the fighters and warn the guy with the illegal move.
Rules are followed 100%, no exception.
There is no DQ every night, cause fighters don't try to cheat. When they try something illegal, and get warned or point deducted, they don't try that again, let alone foul their way into 20+ illegal moves.

P.P. And i already gave you an example of last 10 seconds DQ in the very last round, and to a big name, ex HW Champion at One Championship.


And when you going to see in Boxing, that a top name gets DQ or point deducted ? Extremely rare, even when there is a situation of constant fouling.
In MMA you maybe a big star, but entering the cage, it's 50-50 fair fight. In Boxing, referee and judges are brought, and are helping the "right guy".
This my whole post idea, and this is 100% correct, and anyone claiming otherwise has to be either blind or just don't want to admit it.

And there is plenty of videos with straight up DQ or point deduction, just don't want to waste my Sunday searching for them, but still this ain't the point im trying to make.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-wT-awJLTs

And let´s not forget what happened today:

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49-46 Costa

 

Pretty sure Sheeraz had 25lbs on Williams.

My vote goes to DDD

 

Bro in the videos you show highlights of, most of them have referee interfere, separate them and gives strong warning for taking points. Show a clip when the fighter continue to cheat and gets away it, multiple time, like the example below:
And where is the repeating fouling, like 20-30 low blows, 20-30 headbutts and referee didn't do nothing.

Where did you see someone says that there is no fouling in MMA ? They do it, but they have a strong warnings, and the fighter either stop doing it, or get deducted or even DQ.

In boxing you have a repeated fouls over fouls, and even blatant low blows fight finish like Ward - Kovalev, and nothing happens. No DQ, no no contest.
Should i even bring Loma - Salido.

Show me UFC fight where the referee is completely ignorant of constant fouling, and continue to refering top matches.

You still miss the point. Tell me a single fighter that has been favorite by the referee in MMA. Mistakes happen, but in both ways.
In Boxing, they are completely ignoring the dirty work, through the whole fight/s of a certain fighter, because they are the A side.

Even arguing at that is laughable. Boxing is beyond corrupt.

And yeah Costa - Strickland one of the scorecard was next level idiotic, but in Boxing you have this type of scoring in almost every single event. In MMA this is very rare occasion.

They couldn't even hide it in the biggest Boxing fight in the Undisputed, with 1 of the judges blatantly score the fight for Fury, when that was literally impossible, unless you are being beyond corrupt. Same for AJ - Usyk 2, and in so many other fights.
Hell last night, 20-30 headbutts completely ignored. When did the ref stopped the fight and told Dubois he will start deducting a point or DQ him ?
Against Usyk: 20-30 low blows, multiple warnings, not a single point deducted.
Against Lerena, how did Dubois win that fight? With Illegal shots after the bell, and previous being Knockedown 3 time in a WBA Title fight, which 3 KD rules.

It's not comparable at all. As MMA just like any sports have bad refereeing/judging moments, in Boxing this is the norm.

And Jon Jones specifically had multiple point deduction fights. Just out of my mind, 2 points deducted against Anthony Smith. DQ loss into his record.

 

Dubois imo . He is improving with every fight and his confidence is also improving

 

This is what I initially responded to.
When was someone DQ´d in MMA? It´s as rare as in boxing. Just stop.

I am not defending boxing here, I am disagreeing with your assessment on MMA officiating.

 

Yeah Dubois would have gotten DQ 100%. No one was going to allow him to head first with his head like that constantly, and making more than 20-30 fouls. No one.
You don't see that repeating fouling, when in Boxing this is something we see on daily basis.
Maybe there is a MMA Fights with constantly fouling from one side, but they are extremely rare.
You can't compare the TWO, as MMA has strong rules, something Boxing hasn't, simply because it's so corrupt.
Fighting an UK or USA fighter, you are already handicapped and are going into uphill battle.

 

It was definitely that bad and blatant. Dubois also landed plenty of low blows against Miller, and he didn't complain either. Just because they are being dumb, doesn't mean this should be allowed, as it's totally against the rules.

Dubois has become one of the dirtiest fighters out there.
Constant low blows against Usyk.
Hitting after the break against Lerena, and somehow referee ignored the 3 knockdown rules, which the fight had, and helped Dubois through the first round, and they were so corrupt that the ended the first round 20 seconds earlier. Dubois was also given all the time in the world to recover. Yet Lerena was stopped immediately, even though most shots landed after the bell. This ain't coincidence, this is Frank Warren long hands.
And now he headbutted the f**** out of Hrgovic.
I will rewatch the fight, when i can, but i counted at least 20-30. Every time Dubois goes to clinch, as he initiate them, he was charging with his head. This is illegal. When you clinch, etc you can't charge or move with your heads to your opponent one.
It was 100% deliberate.
He should have been DQ by the 3rd around, let alone see the 8th.

 

There were so many fights in history where fighters commited fouls and got the win.

Hrgovic himself rabbit punched McCean to a KO win, clear foul. He would've won anyway without fouls but still he did it and the referee was fine with it.

Lennox Lewis should have been immediately DQ'd against MIke Acey when he hit him purposedly 3 times while Acey was down.
Lennox could've also easily been DQ'd vs Grant when he hit him with uppercut while holding his head with left arm.
And those were fights where Lewis should've easily won without any fouls.

Bottom line is - there are many boxers who foul and not get DQ'd so Dubois using his head is not any outlier by any means. Hrgovic wasn't dirty in this fight but he fouled many times in his previous matches and he never got even a point deductions for his fouls.

 

No, he would have had a point deducted at worst, if the ref had done his job.
It´s very, very rare that a boxer continues to foul after loosing a point.

 

It's not like it's never happen. Lawrence Okolie is a good example. He was what ? 2 point deducted for constant holding, and should have been DQ straight away in that fight against Chris Billam-Smith, but again A side privilege. And he kept holding and holding, and holding.
Same in Garcia - Haney.
And Dubois was never even warned. The referee completely ignored his illegal tactics and fouls. He just said watch your heads .... Absolutely pathetic.

And the problem is in Boxing you don't even get a strong warnings, let alone point deduction. It's super rare.
They just allow the A side to cheat constantly and gets away with it.

In MMA you can get away with it once or twice, but when the ref see it, he is going to call the foul, if it's against the rules, which is my whole point.

And just to make clear i didn't have any favorite of Dubois - Hrgovic. And i like Dubois, or let say liked him, but can't stand his dirty cheating tactics now with don Charles.