Luis Ortiz and Zhilei Zhang comparison

Zhang would crash Ortiz in a couple rounds.

 

Ortiz is better technically and better stamina. Zhang is bigger and more power.

 

Maybe Ortiz was a talent unrealised he definitely didn't have a good resume so it's hard to judge how good he really was and he wasn't thoroughly tested enough during his career. But in the end that's his fault, he was the one that refused to fight Ustinov twice in an eliminator in 2016 that would of earned him a title shot much sooner and got him on a the Canelo/Smith PPV undercard. He ended up paying $1 mill to Goldenboy to buy out his own contract with them and this after getting into a legal dispute with his previous promoter when he broke contract with that promoter to sign with Goldenboy. He's been the architect often of his own obstacles.

He was the one that refused to fight Joshua when he was mandatory, signing to fight Wilder for about 10% of what he would of been paid against Joshua. He was the one again who turned down a $7-8 million offer to replace Miller and fight Joshua. So again the architect of his own failure to secure better fights.

Joyce wasn't a better amateur than Zhang, both won Olympic Silver medals, both won bronze medals at the world championships, though Zhang did that twice so if anything he was the slightly more accomplished amateur. Yes Parker wasn't as good an amateur but he also turned pro at 20 so really didn't have the extensive senior amateur career Joyce, Ortiz and Zhang had. He likely would have had more success had he stayed longer in the amateur game as he was an accomplished junior amateur.

Ortiz looked better in terms of the eye test I agree with that but that was against inferior opposition. He had a more pleasing style, Zhang's more of a bruiser like Joyce but with faster hands and very dangerous counter punching skills. I also think Zhang is far better on the inside than Ortiz as Ortiz prefers to keep things at a distance, he never once tried to get inside on Wilder like Zhang did which is why Zhang was far better at cutting the ring off on Ortiz or even Parker.

But yeah the Wilder comparison isn't a fair one due to Wilder being faded. But I'll say Zhang is 41 and past his prime too, while he doesn't have as many miles on the clock as Wilder, we never really got to see what a prime Zhang could do, were seeing a faded version now and even this faded version has impressed me more than Ortiz ever did.

 

Zhang would have out of breathe by the 8th round with a prime Deontay and would have got slept.

 

That's assuming it went 8 rounds.

 

assuming he didn't get lucky, i favor this view

 

You think Zhang would have need to get "lucky" to catch Wilder with potentially fight ending shots? Wilder was never particularly hard to hit and hurt. It's quite possible that the fight would have always played out similarly to how it did.

 

where have i denied that? of course you are correct. that said, just like everybody else, the dosser (i love that moniker) had a prime. during that small window of time, deontay was pretty mobile with that gangly frame and could hit like a truck and believed it would save him. in that state i kinda think he was dangerous to somebody that tends to gas after 6 rounds.

 

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