Usyk confirms Fury was his toughest fight

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You don't say?
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He said the uppercut was extremely painful then he thanked god for his protection because it didn't knock him out...

    Said fury is extremely smart and any other opponent would fall for his mental games (meanwhile fans cry that Fury is being a meanie)
     
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  3. pugilista

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    I think the important bit here is how Usyk didn't fall for the mental games. No Fury fan can deny that this was the first time Fury not only met his match in the mental strength category but was thoroughly outclassed. Usyk won every single psychological battle between the two. How chilling is the 'I won't leave you alone' message now in retrospect? It feels like a prophecy now. Usyk didn't leave Fury alone; he kept pushing him all fight long and knocked him out.

    I remember particularly one episode. When Fury was clowning around, showboating in the corner in the first round, trying to make it look like he was in control and trying to lure Usyk in, Usyk just walked backwards with his hands lowered, nodding and making gestures with his mouth that looked like 'I'm going to devour you, boy—do your thing, clown around, no matter, you are mine now, and you won't get out of here alive' while maintaining eye contact with a chilling stare. It was literally animalistic, a predator locking his eyes on his prey.

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  4. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is not a deranged British Crack head who talks sh I t to sell fights. He is an honest guy and always tells it like it is.
     
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  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You certainly can't.

    Bottom line is you can't tell someone what their opinion is. The give away is in the wording 'their' opinion.

    Not 'your' opinion, 'their' opinion.
     
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  6. Joy_Rones

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    I mean that's true. I could be wrong with my take.
    The way I saw it is Usyk was on a podcast where he was asked on the spot if that was his toughest fight. He said in his limited English "i think so far yes, but not hardest punch" or something to that effect.
    Then disgruntled Fury fans took that and went like "seE? tOuGhEsT eVeR!" which is pathetic loser talk.
    Usyk is a gentleman and very professional. I don't see him talking down on a beaten opponent, especially when they have an upcoming fight.
    Or he could be completely genuine in that was his toughest fight. He was 37 after all.
    And credit where credit is due Fury did give him hell in the middle rounds. I agree that this was the toughest fight he had at HW. Much better performance than Joshua.
    Fury is a complete cave troll but he's given us amazing fights.
     
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  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and people have hung off every word that Usyk said....until he said something favourable about Fury that is....now he's a liar....LOL!
     
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  8. Geo1122

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    Actually that’s a good call. I guess the difference is that it felt like Usyk’s only way to beat Fury was to deplete his gas tank, and on rewatching it, that took one almighty effort.
     
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  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There could be some recency bias there too, in terms of Usyk's comments.

    To counter that, he's may also consider that he is a better fighter now than when he fought Briedis and therefore the Briedis fight looked tougher but may not have been when you factor this in.

    I also take Usyk at face value but there are some variables to consider too.
     
  10. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover New Member Full Member

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    Fury is one of the best, it makes usyk's win even more impressive imo, deal with it.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    People are delusional Usyk is speaking the truth

    Out of his own words Anthony Joshua is comparable to still water and Fury is sparkling water lmfao. What do you think this is supposed to mean ? Aj is a stiff basic boxer and Fury has more nuances
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Joshua would have crumbled under what Usyk had to endure to get the W.
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep that uppercut in the 6th would've been the beginning of the end for AJ.
     
  14. naranja

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    They hate Fury so much they can't even give him credit in a DEFEAT. He didn't win. He lost! It's okay, and yet nope there's no possible way he was Usyks toughest fight Usyk MUST be lying to give Fury any credit at all.
     
  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Another side step.

    Theres been nothing directly stated or implied by me to suggest any confusion re the definition for an expressed opinion.

    That’s because there hasn’t been any confusion.

    There has been no give aways or bottoms line to your points.

    So, you’ve never questioned the complete sincerity behind anyone’s expressed opinion or understood that an expressed opinion is open to interpretation?

    And, yes, you’ve locked yourself into believing anything Usyk has said or will ever say to the exact letter. Again, gotcha.

    So you obviously also concur that Fury was afraid and ducked Usyk for a good period.

    Well, actually, there is the give away that you still won’t answer a few simple questions.

    That’s because the honest answers would impugn your position that you believe Usyk’s words (as being sincere and an actual statement of FACT) in their own right - which is exactly what you’ve pivoted this thread on - so yeah, there is that (your) bottom line also.

    Your opinion that it was Usyk’s toughest fight was ALREADY formed, - and not at all based on Usyk’s word.

    You invoked Usyk’s opinion and made a thread merely because it agreed with your own opinion - and you extended yourself into saying that Uysk’s expressed opinion confirmed that it was Usyk’s toughest fight (your already formed opinion) and made it FACT, period.

    Usyk also gave a very cursory answer to a framed, double barrelled question - his simple answer after a moment or two’s thought was - “fight? Yes” but then Olek was more interested in answering and elaborating on the hardest punch part of the question - Chisora.

    They didn’t ask if Fury was Usyk’s toughest/best opponent. Btw, fights get a lot tougher all on their own as a fighter ages and sometimes for other reasons not directly related to the opponent - and Usyk has aged and lost a step or two in his own right.

    Fury himself might’ve fairly answered that Ngannou was his toughest “fight” to date...and...?

    Usyk hit his first stamina wall in the early to mid rounds - the engine clearly isn’t exactly what it used to be - his mobility and head movement had notably degraded for several
    rounds on their own.

    Usyk is also nothing if not humble and in possession of humility. But never mind that...

    He was questioned in the post fight presser re the 9th round and IF he believed he was robbed of a TKO (as his own team firmly believed)

    Usyk replied that he didn’t think about these things and that it only mattered that he won.

    However, he paused and then answered with a smile “Okay, maybe” - in respect of the question - but again, followed that saying, “I won, doesn’t matter”.

    What is laughable is latching onto a 2-3 word answer from Usyk to claw back some honour and credit for Fury - and it’s also laughable trying to frame any other fair interpretations of Usyk’s words as being in denial.

    Fury was beaten clearly and, for all intents and purposes, was STOPPED in the 9th round, even with the ref impeding Usyk TWICE during his offensive. Boom.

    I’ll speculate also that those taking Usyk’s scant answer as not just a sincere opinion but also as the absolute fact of the matter and a direct credit to Fury - were likely also backing and choosing Fury to win - and, after the smoke cleared, they also likely believed it to be a very close fight (it wasn’t) and played blind to the obvious misconduct of the ref who also made the fight that much harder for Usyk - particularly in round 9 when he did, in fact, rob Usyk of a TKO victory.

    I’m sure without rounds 10, 11 and 12 the fight would’ve felt that bit less “tough” for Olek.

    But hey, celebrate this thread as a some sort of post fight “win” for Fury (it isn’t) if it at all placates you. Lol.
     
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