Joshua Could've fought Wilder last year

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hold up a bit on that one. Fury is at least a legitimately good fighter, one of the elites of his generation of fighters, and he accomplished that in spite of terrible personal habits that have stopped him from maximizing his potential. Fury with the training dedication of Joshua would have been a beast.
     
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    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And Joshua with Fury´s talent would have been an all time great. It is what it is.
    I always hated the "Hurr, durr, Joshua is just stiff robot" comments. He gets a lot of criticism simply because of his work ethic, which is baffling. This same work ethic put him at the top of the sport. Meanwhile Fury was kind admired for his lack of work ethic, which I also hated.
     
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    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    What makes you think it would have been a great matchup?
     
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    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone would get knocked out

    Years ago it would've been amazing cause on the hand Joshua can overwhelm Wilder with combinations but on the other hand Wilder can take advantage of Joshuas lack of head movement and land a bomb and end the fight
     
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    This stuff happens every generation. It's rarely the guy with the most talent who has the most dedication. Go back to the 90's. Imagine Mike Tyson, but with Evander Holyfield's dedication and self control? He'd very likely have beaten that 49-0 record, very likely be at least tied for Ali for #1 GOAT.
     
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    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Imagine if Duran were as cunning as Leonard.
     
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    That makes it even worse. Wilder didn't have much talent and his resume shows it. Fury has a lot of talent but he still created a legacy full of Wilder and Chisora fights, he has still less title fights than kids and he fought a 37 year-old debutants as a reigning WBC champion. Utterly disgraceful. I'll give you a simple example. When you are a criminal but you don't really have other options, it's one thing. It's quite another to have a lot of options but still you become a criminal.
     
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  8. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Exactly...

    Like for example, if Victor Callejas had defended his title in 1985 versus Jaime Garza..it would still be a fight Id salivated since Garza had that dynamite, but after Garza got starched in the first round by Kid Meza in November of 1984, to most fans it would have been a case of "too late"
     
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    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, you are right.
    It shatters the narrative of many fans though.
    It's also true Wilder asked for the fight after the points loss to Parker and they declined.
    It's also true he could have fought Wilder long before Wallin. He booked two 'tune-ups' before Wallin after losing on points to Usyk. They wouldn't fight Wilder then because it wasn't ideal confidence wise.
    Then we have all the 'lost years' where it's hard to believe they actually wanted that fight (when Wilder was the most dangerous).
    Very funny the fight never happened though.
     
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    Fight is still relevant imo, but let's be honest, the time to make the fight was before Ruiz and Fury entered the discussion.
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    My favorite part about this is how ****ing stupid you are. I remember when everyone was picking Wilder to KO Parker and picking Wallin to beat AJ.

    Yall revisionist lil bitches. Hilarious
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    They fought on the same card to...PROMOTE the fight. Why promote it? Because Fury stopped Wilder twice and Usyk beat AJ twice...a fight between LOSERS isnt all that interesting...so promoters rightfully tried to repair their image(s). Wilder just ****ed it up...as usual
     
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    Yes, Wilder.

    Why are you talking about "years ago"? Do either of them have a time machine we don't know about?
     
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    Ortiz ducked the biggest opportunity of his life in the Joshua fight he was offered. Let's not forget he popped once for the first Wilder fight too, he's had 4 world title fight opportunities (1 ducked, 1 popped, 2 lost). Whyte has had one.

    It's not a controversial statement that if he was from the UK he'd get more opportunities, it's absolute BS. You are talking out of your ass. Controversial would imply that some people might actually agree with you.
     
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    Well Parker proved that theory wrong, Wilder should have retired after that fight, AJ looked much better v Wallin.