Fury said for 3 years "Wilder beats the rest of them"...

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Let's be real here and accept Fury took Wilders soul, 2 sustained, heavy annihilations like that and no fighter will ever be the same again.

    Every ounce of belief and confidence knocked out of Wilder on top of the physical damage sustained, the air of invincibility well and truly destroyed.

    Follow those beatings with just 1 round in over 2 years and it's the perfect recipe for losing again, especially when just fighting for money.

    I challenge anyone on here to name some fighters who took 2 heavy sustained beatings like that, followed by a long period of inactivity, and then came back anywhere near their best to claim big victories late in their 30s?
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah let's be real here, your boxing knowledge is below 0.
    Wilder took 2 beatings by Ortiz before the KO, and before refs helped him against 40 years on paper in reality 50 years old pensioner. So Wilder was never the same after this beatings. He was also 35 for the rematch with Fury, so he was shot to shyte. We knows Fury only fight guys older than him and past their prime, so that was another confirmation Wilder was shot. Ortiz in fight 1 also landed more punches than Fury, so yeah, Ortiz truly destroyed Wilder and that's why he lost to Fury.
    How about that for a logic ??
    AJ seems to be shot to pieces after the beating he took from Klitschko, Ruiz and twice from Usyk. He surely is done.

    And this also must be true, as you claimed it for years:
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Let's not forget this one
     
  4. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Hahahaha. Gold.
     
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  5. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    I guess you apply the same logic to late thirties (at best) Ortiz.. the old man that most of Wilder's reputation seemed to be based upon.

    There's nothing left to twist to make out Wilder was much more than a can crusher. It's done.
     
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  6. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    ****ing hell, baby reindeers on me now :tiburon::wave:
     
  7. HEADBANGER

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    To think that Fury took Wilders soul with the 2 heavily sustained beatings, and then only boxed 1 round in the 2 years after, would not be a hard concept for a rationally thinking individual to comprehend. That is where you struggle Baby Reindeer, your fanatical man love for Anthony Joshua in tandem with your frenzied, unhinged hatred for Tyson Fury means you are unable to see anything rationally.

    Comparing Joshua with a fight he actually won against Klitschko (his best win) and also throwing in closish fights with Usyk that he never took any kind of beating in is utterly bizarre, it's not remotely comparable to the sustained beatings wilder took off Fury during a TKO & KO.

    Again, comparing Wilders fights that he actually won v ortiz as some comparison to the sustained beating KOs he received from Fury is just utterly bizarre logic. Also none of your post taking into account just 1 tound by Wilder in the 2 years following the beatings.

    You're obviously a poster with mental health problems and deep hatred issues, I'd genuinely applaud the mods in limiting you to 5 posts per day to prevent you spamming the boards with your irrational, non stop, hateful drivel that is so tedious to have to trawl through and actually find posts from decent posters.

    With regards to Usyk, obviously wide of the mark calls, I expected rounds 4-7 to be the pattern of the fight for a much longer period. However I've been more than fair in my praise and respect for Usyk after the fight, a true champion.
     
  8. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I don't disagree with any of that. It is pretty clear that he declined significantly after the Fury fights though. Even if he wasn't the greatest to start, he is a shell of his former self.
     
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  9. jmarlow

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    Fury took his soul
     
  10. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    He got his skull dented in with an egg weight apparently and was never the same.....
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Like how you see it ? With your "greater" boxing knowledge ? When you explained for 2 years how Fury is unbeatable, and how Usyk has no chance, how Fury would smash him to pieces, and so on, so on, etc?

    You see my rationally thinking "maybe lacking" for you, but the way i see you have no thinking at all. Boxing at least.

    Imagine claiming a complete Fraud like Fury would somehow smash Usyk to pieces, and not give a single chance to a guy who literally won every single trophy there is in amateur and Pro Boxing. A guy with clean unbeaten PRO record, and a guy with 335-15 amateur record. Same guy your fanHero ducked for 2 years, and all of you were pulling all kind of mental gymnastics, and still trying to do it, now on Wilder to save face, as your boy has no resume other than Wilder and 40 year post to **** Klitschko.

    I don't want to waste my time or i will quote some of your "super knowledgeable" post on what Fury was going to do on Usyk, and how we were delusional to even think that Usyk had a chance. Anyone who actually have any boxing knowledge would have known that Fury usual holding, and leaning, won't work on Usyk, just based on Usyk style. But you don't even understand basic thing, how would you get any of that.

    Who is mental now ? Oh, and who is the hater exactly? It's you Fury fanboys that couldn't keep AJ name out of every single thread out here.

    Who is mental again? You need go find a good clinic buddy. Do you think i or anyone can take you seriously after this post ?
    Or when you are not going your way, going down the road of mom insults. This speaks for your level as a human being.
    You lost the point long time ago with me "buddy".
    Imagine acting tough on a forum, and claiming you have beaten a PRO Boxer, and expect someone to take you seriously after that, yeah surely. :D

    Maybe it's good for you to check the dictionary for the word Irony, as you obviously didn't get it, do you? But i get it, you were so mad that your narrative was exposed, you had to come up with something.

    Fury didn't put a beating on anyone. Firstly Fury is not a hard puncher. Secondly if Wilder punch resistance was gone, Parker would have KO him with ease. And Parker is prolly bigger puncher than Fury.

    Fury landed less punches than Ortiz landed on Wilder in Wilder - Fury 2. That's all you need to know.
    Fight 2 ended by corner throwing the towel, over Wilder busted eardrum.
    In Wilder - Fury 3, Wilder was KOed, but he wasn't KOed out cold, which is usually what end your punch resistance, like Whyte vs AJ, Povetkin, etc.

    By your logic, Chisora punch resistance should have been gone like 10 years ago. Parker punch resistance should have been gone, as Joe Joyce put a real beating on him. And AJ is a very good example, as someone can make a case as he took a sustain beating. And if you don't think that Usyk beat AJ badly, than you have no clue(you clearly don't). Usyk landed way more power punches on AJ, than Fury dd on Wilder in both fights, that's all you need to know. Usyk is also the fighter to hit AJ the most, so that's speaks volume.
    AJ suffer a hard beating and KD against Klitschko. You don't need to be KOed or the fight to be stopped to took a beating. Ask your Hero. And AJ suffer concussion and 4 Knockdowns against Ruiz.

    And Fury ain't the biggest puncher out there, so he ain't going to take anyone soul.
    You can try to make all the excuses in the world, no one is going to believe that b.c. The reality is, and the people who actually knew anything about boxing, unlike knew, we know long, long before Wilder even stepped to the big challenges, that he was never any good to begin with.

    I haven't seen much of Usyk praise and respect from anyone, not that any of need any false praise by Fury fan's at all.
    All the threads done by you and Fury fanatics prior to the fight, which is a good 2 years cause your hero was ducking the fight, was more than enough for people to know with what kind of people we are dealing with.

    Typical bullying behavior, and when someone stand to them, they start acting as a victims.
     
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  12. Wig

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    Fury beat the fight out of him

    Then mother ahayuasca relieved him of that ancestral demon spirit power

    Wilder has found peace now

    He’s earned it in my book and boxing history will forever remember THAT trilogy
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    Floyd Patterson hits on a lot of that. Liston knocked him out twice in1, and he came back to be a very legit contender and almost earned a third fight.

    Archie Moore took brutal losses to Marciano and Patterson and came came back to best some good heavies and have his legendary series with Durelle.
     
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  14. pugilista

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    Nonsense. Wilder was never good in the first place. Did Fury steal his mojo when he was outboxed badly by the likes of Szpilka and Ortiz too until they ran out of gas? Any top 10 fighter beats even a prime Wilder without any problems. Fury bigged him up but there was a reason he ducked Joshua and went down the Wilder route instead. Taking on Wilder three times is far less risky than taking on Usyk or Joshua once.
     
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  15. pugilista

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    It's hilarious how the goal posts are being constantly moved.

    'Usyk has no chance!' > Usyk beats Fury > 'Usyk confirmed Fury was his toughest fight!'

    Fury fanboys are desperately trying to get something out of Usyk beating the living daylight out of their hero. It was supposed to be a mismatch where the giant mega fighter obliterates the pumped up little midget. And all we hear since fight night is 'Fury hurt him!' and 'he gave him a tough fight!'

    Up until fight night, most Fury fans said if Fury doesn't stop Usyk they would be disappointed. And now 'but but but those uppercuts hurt Usyk!' seems to be the most they can hope for to claim. Hilarious. They are still at the bargaining stage of the grieving process.
     
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