Benavidez didn't look the same

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He won 7-5 or 8-4 scorecards were way too wide

    Work rate wasn't the same

    He has improved his defense
     
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    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benevidez has a good solid skillset for sure. I don't see Bivol struggling at all with him and Beterbiev would batter him, but at 168 I don't see him losing.
    Canelo isn't fighting him unfortunately. What a shame. I don't see Benevidez KO'ing Canelo but besting him yes.
     
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    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not so sure he can make 168 comfortably anymore
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because Gvozdyk finally refound his confidence around the sixth and made him look average.
     
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    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Canelo would beat him but he is getting older
     
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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Gvozdyk mostly landed on gloves. He won about 3 rounds. But Benavidez didn't look great.
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Speaking of mostly landing on gloves, yeah... so did Benavidez.
     
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    At 175 he doesn't carry up his power, 168 is where he needs to be at for at least a few more years.
     
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    So this answers the question of why he kills himself to make 168, he doesn't have the pop to do much at 175? And just a few days ago I watched him talk about going all the way to heavyweight lol.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's not a light heavy that was obvious at the weigh in as Gvozdyk looked far bigger. DB will need to actually get a strength and conditioning coach to add some muscle to his lanky frame if he's ever to campaign seriously at 175, like Hopkins did when he moved up.

    At least this might put an end to the weight bully accusations, he's a natural 168 fighter and should stay there. He did better than expected for me and went up in my estimation, even against this faded Gvozdyk. He showed far more defensive skills than before with the head movement and keeping off the line. He'll need that if Canelo ever decides to man up and face him.
     
  11. sdot_thadon

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    I don't think this proves he is not a weight bully as much as it proves why he's a weight bully.
     
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  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You may have a point there. Still don't like the idea of weight bullies, if you can legitimately make the weight then I don't see a problem.
     
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    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weight bullies exist. The concept is they go to extreme lengths to squeeze into a division so they fight smaller people as much as possible. That's where the bully label comes from.

    The fact they can make the weight doesn't change what they're doing. The rules are stupid and making a weight isn't the same as being the same natural size which is why the weight classes were made, to have people fight people their OWN size. The classes weren't made so people could have a competition to see who can cut the most weight.

    Within a division there is a spectrum of cutting from people who barely cut to those who are extreme cutters. The size difference is massive between these poles and makes for comical matchups at times.

    These characters who kill themselves to cut massively are terrified of fighting people their own size. And it's often exposed when they can't do this cut anymore and have to go up. Suddenly they aren't the force they were. Hence their whole strategy is based on bullying smaller fighters.
     
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    I don't either but I'm not to fond of the idea of a guy hitting the ring 2 weight classes heavier than their opponent after the weigh in regardless of who does it. I think the guys that benefit from the tactic are the guys that have the size but not the power for their natural weight, or the power but not the size if that makes any sense. Straddling the weight lines is much easier because we have more classes than years past and is I guess a way to find success out of a fighter that may not have been able to get it otherwise.
     
  15. MidniteProwler

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    That’s what happens when you finally fight someone the same size as you. Gvozdyk being 37 years old and inactive was enough to secure the win.