Was Kell Brook's decision to fight GGG a career ender?

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    essentially? I know he showed a lot of heart but this seemed like a bad idea. It seems like after this beating, he was never the same fighter again.
     
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  2. piprules

    piprules Active Member Full Member

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    Brooks was a good fighter but definitely stuffed up fighting ggg. It was balsy move and he did pretty well but he got beat up in the end. Credit to hm for taking the fight.
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    yes agreed.

    Ironically, If he got ko'd in 2 rounds, i don't think it would have had that kind of long term effect. But the fact that he took a sustained beating over 6 rounds and a busted eye socket (despite having moments of success) meant the long term damage was so much greater.

    Still, very gutsy though.
     
  4. Man Key

    Man Key New Member banned Full Member

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    Maybe, or maybe he felt he was heading towards end point of his career and wanted some "money" fights.

    GGG, Spence Jr, Crawford, Khan...that reads like a guy looking for bigger money paydays.

    I do agree jumping 2 divisions against a savage like GGG was a mistake though. There were good fights at WW for him. I can only imagine he was offered insane money as Rubank Jr dropped out of GGG fight an no one else at MW wanted it apparently.
     
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  5. Vigilance777

    Vigilance777 Active Member Full Member

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    Brook did it because he's a true warrior. Nobody else had the balls to take on real challenges. Spence, Crawford, Khan, those three named prior all fall into that category. I applaud Kell Brook to take the risk in his prime, the only one among many, truly Special K. That said, yeah the GGG fight turned him into damaged goods. But it's not like the pussies at the top of WW would've fought him at the time.
     
  6. DoubleG95Fanatic

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    It was a career ender yes.

    He needed to start fighting some names, besides Porter there wasn't much there on his record but moving from welter to fight the top dog at middle was never gonna end well for him. Can't knock the guy for trying to chase greatness.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    It ended his career, so ofc it was.
     
  8. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Certainly
    He showed bottle and was definitely more skilled early on, but 3g was always going to break him and that's what he did

    I think spence is overhyped and Kell prior to his beating from GGG would have taken him imo
     
  9. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one move killed Brook’s career. His entire career has been consistently mired by bad decisions.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I keep saying, we Brits are the toughest, fiercest warriors in the world and Kell stepped up to the plate and two divisions to take on the bogeyman, the savage punching monster that was GGG, when North America's and the rest of the world's best at 160 were quaking in their boots and soiling their knickers at the thought of going within a 1000 mile radius of GGG if there was two pairs of boxing gloves and a ring located within it.

    Yes it ruined Kell's career
     
  11. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's the common narrative but I'm not sure it's true; Brook copped a beating but it was only for a few rounds or so, and as for the injury he sustained (fractured orbital bone), Inoue and Malignaggi suffered the same injury and fully recovered from it. I think the primary damage to Brook was psychological rather than physical; perhaps his biggest mistake was boiling himself back down to 147 directly afterwards, rather than moving up to 154.
     
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  12. elrond_buggard

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    His career didn't seem that well managed in general. After his breakout win Vs Porter, he had a string of uninspiring title defences vs a bunch of randos, then leapt up to fight GGG for God knows what reason, which set him up to lose Vs Spence.

    Fought Crawford when he was way over the hill, then Khan way after it meant anything.

    His career highlight was a close win over Shawn Porter, and hard to imagine that it couldn't have been more...
     
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  13. MorvidusStyle

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    No it didn't end his career and I dispute the idea it was brave, it was actually the opposite.

    They went into the fight with a 'safety clause' agreement that as soon as he got into trouble the corner would end the fight.
    Who has ever heard of that before in any fight let alone a title fight?

    This is COMPLETELY different to anyone else who fought GGG. He was absolutely protected. And it was actually completely corrupt. None of the fans realised that he wasn't going to fight to the end, he was going to get pulled as soon as the fight turned.

    The myth he was so small and brave is a joke. He wasn't even much smaller since he was a massive drainer and only an inch or so shorter. They weighed the same in the ring. Lemieux looked smaller compared to Golovkin than Brook.

    He didn't take huge brain damage, got the cracked socket yes but he wasn't badly KO'd and wasn't even dropped. They pulled him so early that the ref didn't know what was going on because he was still dancing around on his feet, so he took a few more shots. Compare that to the beating Lemieux took or Stevens or others, it doesn't really compare, even though he had the fracture. But that wasn't a detached retina either. Clearly has a skeletal weakness as the other socket was cracked later. That's very rare to see.
     
  14. Vigilance777

    Vigilance777 Active Member Full Member

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    First I've heard of a "safety clause" but far as I can tell all it means is the corner would stop the fight if he got into trouble. Sounds like all corners should have "safety clauses." Nothing changes the fact that he was a career 147er who moved up, it doesn't matter who "looked smaller." To say he wasn't damaged by that fight is willfully ignorant. "Brook had an eye socket fracture but look at the beating Lemieux took!" Who the hell is comparing Lemieux to Kell Brook?
    YDKSAB
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Spence told him you better make weight boy knowing he was damaged
    When crawford said the same to Spence looked shook and was allegedly drained lol
     
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