The Big Myth About Tank Davis

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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    I had it 4 rounds to 3 in favour of Davis the same as the judges
     
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  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I see nothing wrong with Tank's style. He takes his time. Is not rushed. Some might view this as apprehensive. I don't. He takes risks when he is ready, like most great fighters do. He is a conservative fighter but when he sees blood he closes the show.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Since we're going by crooked official judges scores now, I guess we can also go by Compubox's punch stats. Martin outlanded Tank in 3 rounds, was even in 2, and only outworked in the last 3 rounds before the stoppage, in round 6 by 3 punches and in round 8 by only 1. The only round Tank genuinely dominated and had an ironclad argument for winning was the 9th, which he out landed Martin by 9. Then it comes down to quality of punches, most of Frank's were far cleaner and eye catching. So by any possible metric, someone scoring a fight in favor of Martin were far from being disingenuous.
     
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  4. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
  5. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Never said that a person is not entitled to their view, was just stating the fact that Tank was not losing that fight at the time of the stoppage.Saying otherwise is disingenuous
     
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  6. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've long cited Tank's subtle craft and rejected the notion that he's a crude slugger.

    He applies educated pressure, gets to where he needs to be when he needs to be there, and excels at shot placement for such a heavy handed kid.

    Nevertheless, those who claim he'll blow right through Stevenson or even Loma at this stage greatly underestimate their ring craft and, in Loma's case, big fight experience.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Actually, by saying someone having it scored in Frank Martin's favor, when virtually everyone on the RBR did, are being disingenuous. You're calling us all liars, which is absolutely ridiculous and kind of offensive. How about everyone's entitled to their view in a match where 3 rounds could have gone either way, and someone having it favor of Tank by a round or two or Martin by a round or two, are perfectly valid scores instead?
     
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  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I had it 4 to 3 the other way... Ultimately it was clearly only one round either way - hardly a big enough difference to be worth quibbling over either way, IMHO.
     
  9. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It’s idiotic to continually say “well he was down on the cards!” As if it’s some kind of mark against him… when he wins, emphatically, almost every time…

    Imagine if we acted like being “down on the cards” was closer to a loss than a win with every fighter in history….

    It’s just haters doing what they do… Many people were calling this close as if that means anything when one guy gets knocked out and the other is doing a backflip in celebration…. Call it what you want, the result was Frank Martin being unconscious - and down on the cards or not Davis was calm and collected the whole time..

    More directly relevant to the post - compare Davis to Wilder… Wilder often behaved as if he was anxious or even losing before he got the KO - while Davis may be “down on the cards” it very seldom seems like he isn’t in control..
     
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  10. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    For me, Tank draining opponents and dragging up opponents from smaller weight classes takes some of the shine of his resume which isn't the best to begin with.
    That said, he passes the eye test and then some. I think some people underrate his boxing IQ. He's able to pressure his opponents and drain their energy all while throwing very little. Smart counters, interesting punch selection, exciting to watch.
     
  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep I have for years said that Tank is the best out of the young guys in and around his weight including Haney, Lopez, Shakur and Garcia. Tank is deceptively smart he makes guys pay for their mistakes and if he doesn't get a chance to counter you he will eventually just go after you and bludgeon you with his power. Also Tank is tough as hell and appears to have a good chin.
     
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  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I can't remember a fight where I wasn't rooting for Davis. The interviews I've seen of him (they're the ones just before the walk out, i rarely watch any other interviews) he seems soft spoken and clear thinking. But he has and continues to merit the criticism. So NOW he can pronounce Lomachenko? Tank can't win; if he beats Loma now it's because he aged him out. If gets beat? Either he gets way smaller or Loma gets way bigger or both. Tank should fight Shakur next and then if he wins, offer a legit fight, no hoops to Loma and properly take the torch, if he can. If he legit beats Stevenson first, he makes the whole process legit and at least partially restores the prestige of U.S. boxing.
     
  13. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tank will fight Loma cause Stevenson is gonna price himself out again.
     
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    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Ya I think his skills get overlooked a bit. Tank is often either deploying succesful strategies or constantly tuning his work round after round until he gets his opponents where he wants them.

    When some other fighters do it, its often said they take some rounds to 'download information', but when Tank does it, hes just losing rounds.

    In reality, Tank had a great gameplan against a skilled and focused Martin, and it worked to near perfection.
     
  15. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    No i am not calling you or anyone else who had Martin in front liars.Merely replying to Foggers original post where he stated Davis was bailed out by his power in a fight he was losing.Now the fact is he was not losing, the 3 judges had him in front at the time of the stoppage.This is the point i am making regardless how anyone else scored the fight,he was officially winning the fight
     
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