How did Haney become so powerful in the professional boxing industry?

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  1. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    By powerful I don’t mean his punches but his power to persuade judges, boxing committees, athletic anti-doping committees, rules, etc when he’s not that great of a fighter? He got the judges to give him the unanimous decision against Loma, one scoring 116-112 in his favor. He weight bullied Prograis and others. Got his loss overturned with a NC after getting his ass beat. Why is the boxing industry protecting such a mediocre fighter so much? Does he really draw that much money in his fights?
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    He got a gift if a decision against Loma, fair.

    He didn't weight bully Prograis though.

    He didn't force Garcia to **** hot neither.
     
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    Ain't no party like a Diddy party!
     
  4. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    America protecting their guy...Like they did Mayweather...
     
  5. The one

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    How does Mayweather have anything to do with this? He’s been retired for how long? And there styles are nothing alike so what’s up with bringing him up?
     
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Because the boxing establishment has been trying to manufacture another black American star to be their next Mayweather. Haney was supposed to fill that role, as was Broner, and as Shakur and Tank are doing now. An entire generation of American fighters have been warped by the impact of Mayweather and Ward on their perception of what makes somebody a star in this sport. Everybody wanted another PPV megastar and lot of powerful folk in boxing politics pinned their hopes on Devin and cleared the path for a bit here and there.
     
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    Devin in my eyes is an above average boxer with a decent jab and great conditioning, no way is he on Mayweathers level, and why would the powers that be push for Devin to be a star ? Why not back Bud,Spence, Tank, it’s a lot of guys way better and more exciting throw Norman Jr in that mix also.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet MR doesn't even wanna bid Haney Martin and the WBC took Ryan's side. Ryan is an even bigger cashcow than Haney and with the entire situation with Ryan things could've went far quicker and more efficient if they wanted Haney to be the next star. Other than the rules in place that a cheater gets a no contest, who or what is specifically on Haneys side, can you answer ?
     
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  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    He's not powerful.

    How did he weight bully Prograis and others? You make weight you make weight. This weekend we had a 6'1" guy fight at 126, is he a weight bully?

    Garcia pissing hot and failing the drug test is on Garcia for being a dumbass.
     
  10. Vigilance777

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    Bud: good enough he doesn't need help from the powers that be. Also, has been controlled by Uncle Bob arum the professional mobster. Bob don't let other people get their tentacles of influence on his stars, even sometimes to the detriment of said stars (I.e. the Pacquiao robberies)

    Spence: has the charisma of a 2x4, is too "Texas", and polite individual. Arguably they did back him, he has been a protected fighter to a degree. ARGUABLY protected. Ward had similar charisma/persona and he didn't make nearly as much money as Mayweather. And Ward's keystone victories are against a Russian in an anti-Russian environment. I bring up Ward to say Spence has some of the same shortcomings for attracting the boxing establishment's attention.

    Tank: lol

    Many of the same. The polite, well-spoken Austin Trouts of the sport get robbed or overlooked time and again.

    The outspoken, brazen personalities get media attention, draw fans, make money for boxing, so they get protected whether in dodgy decisions or with easy opponents and a shitload of hype. Wilder. Both Charlos. Tank. Haney's dad. RJJ. Broner.

    Truly Mayweather did it best though, a master of drawing the media.
     
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    I mean, look at the disgraceful way the WBC protected Wilder, although they were just as pitiful in their behaviour with Fury.

    America, for decades, was the literal home of boxing - be it financially, spiritually, emotionally, only that's no longer the case.

    The majority of ATGs are American fighters, and so maybe there is something in the idea that it's about trying to reposition the U.S as the number one again, in whatever context that comes in.

    Ideally, that would be returning Vegas as the number one destination for the biggest fights to counter a growing Saudi interest, perhaps it's about refocusing American kids towards boxing and away from MMA and the huge appeal of the N.B.A etc...and having American fighters as champions to sell the sport back to them is important.

    No champions, means less media interest, which means less money, which means less interest from the public...and so on.

    I'm only thinking out loud here, by the way, so don't jump down my throat if you think I'm wrong.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garcia failed 3 sample tests
     
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    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Haney was 165lb day of the fight. To me, that's a massive advantage. Prograis was chosen b/c he's not big at 140lb. ......just like every fight prior to that. That's weight bullying.
    Fights 1 guy his size...
     
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    Prograis weight bullies himself by that definition.

    Neither fighter came in the ring close to 140.
     
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    So you haven't noticed that Karen has been waaaaaaaaay bigger than all his opponents excepting Garcia and maybe Linares?

    Waaaaaaaaaay bigger.
     
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