What stops Fury from going down in weight to the Wlad fight level?

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah boxing is mainly aerobic so the idea you can be optimal while being 20lbs or more above your ideal weight has always been dumb. Yet I have lost count with how many times I have had people argue this very point, with Arreola, Ruiz Jr, Miller and Fury and they all have lost fights due to poor conditioning.
     
  2. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Especially that he has 6 months, and he could calmly do it in the first 3, than adjust. 5 pounds a month is a light pace for weight loss, especially for such an elephant.
     
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  3. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe it doesn't work like that. Your body has a tendency to hold on to the weight you were at for the longest period of time, which for him was not a lot at his worst.
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lighter does not always mean better
     
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  5. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    It has to do with the fat cells. Where you are obese, morbidly so in Fury's case at that point, they will almost permanently increase is size. It's why it's harder to keep weight off after a period of time where you were fat.

    Either way, Fury is a pro athlete in his mid 30s still engaging in binge drinking at the least, his personal behavior is his biggest detriment to his fitness.
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Stamina wasn't his issue. Usyk's IQ was. Fury adjusted after round 3, Usyk adjusted after round 6. Then separated himself from TF. At his best, I think Fury fights the same. Feints, jabs and decent movement. Easy for Usyk to figure out. Rematch will be a better beat down, if Fury decides to box for l9ng p
    Never said Fury couldn't box. He just doesn't box as well as Usyk. Guys with Fury's talent and skill will always have their moments in fights. That’s nothing new. Hell, take the 1st round of Tszyu/Judah. Tszyu looked like he was levels below and shouldn't even be in the same ring with Zab. Then the bell for round 2 sounded and the chicken dance was invented. LOL
     
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  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that was my thought. he was taking over the fight but couldn’t keep it up. then he got caught.

    the question is, will he learn from it? We’ve seen others not learn from it.
     
  8. BCS8

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    The 3-for-2 pie special at the local supermarket.
     
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  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Crappy genetics, age, and lack of dedication all prevent him from doing so. Why would he want to get down that light anyway? It's not like he's outboxing Usyk whatever he weighs.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not that easy in your mid to late 30s to drop considerable amount of weight to what you weighed in your 20s, especially when Fury doesn't have the best genetics and has been weighing ALOT heavier for the past few years.

    Look at Riddick Bowe for example he dropped alot of weight vs Golota in their 2nd fight and actually weighed the same as he did vs Holyfield the 1st time. Except the difference is because Bowe lost of weight in quick time he looked weak and frail looking.

    I don't think Fury losing alot of weight would do him good vs Usyk it would make him weaker and more vulnerable to getting KO'ed.

    I'd say Fury losing a few pounds wouldn't be a bad idea but he should just focus on his cardio he don't need to lose like 20+ pounds that would be a bad idea IMO especially in such a short amount of time.
     
  11. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Bowe did it much faster than Fury would have to. Like I said, 1 pound a week is considered a light intensity of weight loss even for a woman, much lighter for such a behemoth. And then he still would have 3 months to adjust to it.

    I lost like 30 pounds in 6 month a couple years back in my late 30 and didn't feel weaker. And it's not my job, being a world class athelete.
     
  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He is 35 not 25 doofus

    260 is furys healthy lowest

    And the wlad scale was rigged

    Weight is not an issue conditioning is.

    Close thread i answered it.
     
  13. Samart'sTeep

    Samart'sTeep Active Member Full Member

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    If I remember correctly from my physiology class in college, when you get that fat it actually causes your fat cells to multiply. Normally, your existing number of fat cells remains constant. They might grow or decrease in size based on weight fluctuations. But when you become that fat, you actually create more new fat cells. And no matter how much exercise you engage in, you can't get rid of those excessive fat cells anymore. You can only reduce their size. I might be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

    Honestly, it's a miracle that Fury managed to return to a world class level at all between his drug abuse and his obesity. But it also speaks to the weakness of this heavyweight era that he could.
     
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  14. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'll probably try to come in heavier this time, not lighter
     
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  15. pugilista

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    In all honesty, nothing. It's just a matter of strict dieting and cardio, and I'm pretty sure Fury is ready to do neither of those things. Fury always seemed to be a "line of least resistance" type of guy to me. Meaning, he would do only just as much as is necessary to reach his goals. If he can beat up guys like Chisora or Whyte with a body looking like a bag of milk, if he has the stamina to outmove them, then it's good enough for him. One could tell that he really hates training where he needs to push his limits.

    But on the flip side, I don't think it would matter against Usyk. I've long held the view that no version, shape, or form of Fury beats any version of Usyk. It's just one of those things: Usyk is just a different breed, particularly good at dealing with taller and heavier guys. It's no coincidence that Briedis ran him the closest—a shorter guy bringing the fight to him on the inside. A fit and motivated Ruiz could give him plenty of problems with those fast hands, I reckon. Fury—not so much.