Choose a Coach that would Fit Perfectly for a certain Fighter

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  1. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree but the big issue for naz was physical declne and many broken hands, stewart couldn't do anything about that.
     
  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Freddie Roach for Locche, Ismael Salas for Tito Trinidad, and Ray Arcel for Ruben Olivares.
     
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  3. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Yes but I think honing in on Naz’s defence and making him more of a one-shot precision guy to compensate for his hands would have worked better than Steward’s attempts to turn Naz into a more traditional southpaw. Steward (like he did with Wlad too) tinkered with Naz’s style a bit too much and lost a certain je ne sais quoi that made Naz who is imo.
     
  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    stewart didn't add anything but i think it was just over physically for naz.
     
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  5. Lankykong

    Lankykong Member Full Member

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    Manny would work wonders on any lanky puncher with a pinch of potential.
     
  6. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please elaborate on the Steward/Holmes pairing. Larry has an ATG jab. Do you think Manny could’ve developed Larry’s right hand?
     
  7. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    If Holmes right as we know it can be considered, "undeveloped", then who knows what Manny could do with it.
    Holmes may have become stronger with Steward, but I don't think there could've been much more done to enhance how great Holmes already was. Futch, Arcel, Giachetti, it's not like he didn't have great tutors during his time in the ring.
     
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  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was also Manny Steward's mentor. Bill Miller goes back really far and that knowledge well was very deep
     
  9. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess my question is, what exactly do you see Steward adding to Holmes?
     
  10. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    I think Holmes probably becomes the scariest knockout artist of all time, like a big Tommy Hearns. Lol
    In all seriousness, Holmes was quite strong, and the only reason that he chose to drag fighters into deeper waters to knock em out is because it was easier for him. The two early knockouts we see from were against Leon and Marvis, because he had something to prove, Leon kissed his wife and he wanted to get back at Marvis' daddy (Just look at how he looks to the crowd when he's got him on the ropes).
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Eddie Futch could’ve done some interesting stuff with Vito the mosquito.
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I just feel Manny had more to offer than Ritchie. Manny liked working with HW's that used there length and jab. While i dont think Manny could have improved Larrys jab he had other specialties like getting the most out of your balance and leverage. Its just a very good fit IMO
     
  13. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great analysis. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Holmes is very under appreciated. The Foreman fight would’ve been a big feather in his cap. Big George clearly knew what’s up. The one trait I believe Steward could’ve capitalized on is Holmes’s mean streak. It also helped that Larry was a hard worker. That said, maybe Steward honing Holmes’s aggression could’ve made him more beloved with the fans and seen him not lose his 49th fight, which led to the unforgivable meltdown “Rocky Marciano couldn’t carry my jockstrap.”
     
  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Futch. Wilder.

    And I completely agree on Steward Holmes.
     
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  15. greynotsoold

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    He was Emmanuel Steward's amateur trainer.
     
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