Sonny Liston (Williams to Patterson 2 run) vs FOTC Joe Frazier

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said that run because I believe that was his prime and he maintained that consistency throughout that time.
    Who wins this matchup?
     
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    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Iv been awakened…
     
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  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Peak Liston beats any version of Frazier
     
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    AI could not come up with a worse matchup for Joe Frazier, as great as he was, than peak Charles Liston. It very well could be Foreman in Kingston times God knows what.
     
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    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Liston all the way. I got him ranked somewhere around 3-5 for my head to head list.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Liston. He's going to overpower him and look out for those uppercuts.
     
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    It would be a war, for me a 50/50 fight Sonny early or Joe late.
     
    BoxingFan2002, Jul 22, 2024
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    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This i
     
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    Liston by ko.You don't come at Liston,and Joe could only fight that way.
     
    mcvey, Jul 22, 2024
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    George uppercutted Frazier to the Moon, Liston would send him all the way to Neptune.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Sonny
     
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  12. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t c any fighter who fights head first beating Liston. Bad match up for Joe.
     
    Gazelle Punch, Jul 22, 2024
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Don't you favor Marciano over Liston?
     
    swagdelfadeel, Jul 22, 2024
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. I put that fight at 50/50 and I flip flop between the two to be honest. But Rocky is not a head first fighter. He crouches and leans to draw his opponent closer. He closes the gap in different ways than Frazier. They r both swarmer types who throw an absurd amount of punches but the technique to get there is different. Rocky’s head is always off center line while Frazier bobs and weaves off center line w his head in front. Frazier for that reason is quicker to the draw but easier to hit.
     
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    Troy Cahya NutterButter Full Member

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    Most if not all variations of Liston would pummel Frazier. Frazier was total swarm and didn't stop unless someone could stop him.
    Joe Louis (I think it was Louis) said that Foreman could cage up the ring better than anyone he had ever seen, yet Foreman couldn't back up Liston in their sparring, ever.
    There is no way Frazier is gonna bully Liston at all. How can Frazier win unless Liston is at his worst and just can't handle the smokin
     
    Troy Cahya, Jul 22, 2024
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