Ballsy but stupid moves by a fighter

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  1. ElFrutero_46

    ElFrutero_46 Hey lithen right Full Member

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    For example, Joe Frazier rematching George Foreman on june 1976, at 32, after absorbing unbelievable punishment thorughout his carrer, just fighting the most brutal fight in HW history and against such a stylistic nightmare in wich he had no succes in the first fight.
     
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  2. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield abandoning his jab and move to go left hook happy with Bowe and earn his respect and not get overwhelmed.
     
  3. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Guys.
    I know not everyone on the forum sides with my take, but SRL electing to go toe to toe with Duran was both ballsy and stupid, as we all know when Leonard fought him again with movement and distance, he won easily, of course I know Duran quit, but that was because he knew he couldn't beat that version of Leonard, just my opinion.
    stay safe guys.
     
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  4. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    Hi Mike,

    I hate to be that guy but Leonard and Angelo both spoke about Ray being the bigger man and taking the fight to Roberto, the smaller man before the fight - the narrative quickly changed after the fight, which I believe was rather disingenuous. Ray had excellent movement but he never really moved like he did in No Mas - I sit in the camp that he went toe to toe with Roberto in Montreal cos he was forced to by Roberto's footspeed, his effective aggression and that right hand that wobbled Ray. That loss made him a better fighter but he never fought the wrong fight - he planned to fight that way.

    All respect tho on your take - I'm fairly sure that the Duran of Montreal finds a way to best the Leonard of their second fight - Ray probably always had to lose to him first time around, to know how to fight him in a rematch.
     
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  5. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Billy Conn when leading on the scorecards against Joe Louis after 12 rounds.
    Deciding to go toe to toe with Joe in the 13th not a good idea and ultimately paying the price.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I don't like him, but credit has to be given to a guy like Amir Khan. Facing Canelo at 155 is one ballsy move.
     
  7. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson rematching Sonny Liston after what happened in their 1st fight.
     
  8. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    By all means be that man, coming from a decent educated poster such as yourself is fine, BUT not totally on board with your take, you say he fought like that, because amongst other things he got wobbled by Durans right, which indeed he did, that being the case why would he still elect to trade ? surely the better option would be to box and move, no ! the reason he didn't , I believe is because he wanted to prove his mettle, up to this fight he was viewed as a pretty boy fancy dan boxer, similar in a way to Ali, no one could have guessed how tough he turned out to be, but as I have maintained since I joined, you opinion or take is as good/wrong as mine, and you are more than welcome to gently steer the old man if you care to.
    Stay safe META5, enjoy your post, and your decorum, chat soon buddy.
     
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  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berbick against Tyson.

    Coming out and going toe to toe with the guy. The only folks liking Clever Trevor to win the bout was due to his experience. But fighting that kind of fight from the opening bell subtracts from the ability to use that experience.

    The other thing was Trevor was no hitter. And I never liked him against the hitters. Not with that wading in style of his.
    And firing Futch who had led him to victory over Thomas was hardly
    a good call. But typical.


    I guess some credit can be given for trying to outslug Tyson. But another free money to gamble type fight.
     
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  10. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "I'm going to knock that ********** out."
     
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  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know he did it purely for the coin, but Holmes had to know six weeks notice against Tyson was only gonna end one way.

    I love that fight.
     
  12. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson was simply outmatched by Liston. But he was a prideful man, didn’t want to lose.
     
  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fred, I'll go one further. Floyd was actually dickering for a 3rd match in the late 60s.
     
  14. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar DeLaHoya, in his bout with Floyd Mayweather. He was losing, but in the middle rounds reverted to his jab and won 3 rounds straight before inexplicably, ending its use. Lost the decision and when asked during the post-fight interview why he stopped using the jab, his answer was, "It wasn't the night for a jab." I was looking at the screen screaming, "What?!" I should amend my post. This wasn't balsy, just plain stupid.
     
  15. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was it? I wonder.