OVERALL: Who's more UNDERRATED, Gervonta Davis or Dmitry Bivol?

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OVERALL: Who's more UNDERRATED, Gervonta Davis or Dmitry Bivol?

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  1. Gervonta Davis

    10 vote(s)
    16.7%

  2. Dmitry Bivol

    50 vote(s)
    83.3%
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  1. Boxingiq2020

    Boxingiq2020 Active Member Full Member

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    What do you guys think?
     
    Boxingiq2020, Aug 13, 2024
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol. Tank overrated
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Aug 13, 2024
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Both overrated.
     
    Dorrian_Grey, Aug 13, 2024
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    Reallymakesmethink Member Full Member

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    On this forum, it's tank, no question.
     
    Reallymakesmethink, Aug 13, 2024
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  5. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both of them are overrated. None of them had done enough to be in top of the top.
     
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  6. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Davis.

    His craft is much more refined than many on here are willing to acknowledge.

    Bivol is a good fighter, but he's not nearly as naturally gifted as Tank.
     
    hoopsman, Aug 13, 2024
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    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Easily Dmitry Bivol. Most casuals don’t even know him, while he’s of a similar P4P ranking to Tank (somewhere outside of the top 3)

    On the flip side, many people think Tank is the P4P king, when he simply isn’t at this point in time.. he could be, but the resume just ain’t there.

    Ironically, a proper rating for them both would probably be similar to one another, ie grouped up with the next best guys after Usyk, Inoue, and Crawford.
     
    MagnificentMatt, Aug 13, 2024
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  8. DoubleM

    DoubleM Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Bivol is really overrated. Basic euro fighter.
     
    DoubleM, Aug 13, 2024
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Both have elite skills. If we're talking just skills and ability and not resume and accomplishments, I'd say both are P4P top 10 talents.

    Twink hasn't ever fought anyone truly elite of course whereas, conversely, Bivol dominated the then P4P#1. But I think Twink's combination of power, speed and skills combine to make him elite. He passes the eye test but his best win in an 11 year career is still Pedraza.
     
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    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bivol has a better resume beating way better fighters, one of which was a top 5 P4P, while Tank arguably is more skilled (though he also gets hit more) his resume is way worse. So depends on what you value I would say Bivol overall but I'm a bit biased there.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think Bivol's skills were criminally underrated by many for a long time. He is one of the best defensive fighters in the entire sport, literally getting hit less than anyone else for a number of years, but not once would we ever hear his name mentioned in that regard.

    I do think many underrate Twink's skills because of his power but I've always given him credit for his skills too despite the fact he's never proven them against a truly elite fighter

    And we saw the exact same thing happen with GGG, Kovalev, Beterbiev. They couldn't box according to so many but the many were proven badly wrong


    People can't do that with Loma because his skill level is off the charts and higher than any current fighter but look at how many completely dismissed Usyk's chances at HW, FTR that's the current undisputed HW king Usyk?

    We saw the same thing happen just the other week with Madrimov. He was easy work for Crawford and was getting knocked out but tit didn't play out like that at all and these people genuinely believed he would be much bigger than Crawford whereas I told everyone that was not going to be the case and worst case scenario they would be the same size as each other

    My point being that I know elite skills when I see them
     
    Serge, Aug 13, 2024
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  12. FreddieGibbs

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    Tank is probably more overrated but he often gets sold short
     
    FreddieGibbs, Aug 13, 2024
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It's easy to look real when you're avoiding the best.

    The difference here is that Bivol does look real good against serious opponents... And Tank looks real good against mediocrities.


    Tank gets massively overrated despite his poor resume.
    Bivol if anything gets underrated because he lacks power - his skills are enough to succeed regardless.
     
    BubblesUK, Aug 13, 2024
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  14. The Real Lance

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    Bivol. At least he's fought someone like Canelo. Tank is still avoiding his peers
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    For sure it is but I do think he has elite skills or rather underrated skills + his combination of speed and power makes him elite

    If we took away his brutal power and gave him Bivol's power instead (P4P obviously) how good would he be compared to Bivol? Bivol's skills are clearly superior for me
     
    Serge, Aug 13, 2024
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