Floyd Patterson vs the following

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Well he was fine going into the Williams fight. His mental state only deteriorated after the fight. Probably at least in part, because he knew that draw eliminated his chances for a shot at the title.

    The final straw, I believe was he couldn't afford to buy Christmas presents for his children and nobody would lend him money.
     
  2. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    I forgot to mention it in my other post but the link in your previous post doesn't work.
    I also made an amendment to my previous post for Patterson's ko losses before the Machen fight, I don't know if they were there when you read it, it was to point out that Patterson had been knocked out 3 times himself by then.
     
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  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    My apologies. I'll provide a separate link as well as an additional one regarding Machen's mental health issues, specifically the final straw.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    The article regarding Machen's mental state: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe/81610586/

    Article following Machen-Patterson: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-miami-herald/153473817/
     
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  5. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always questioned whether Machen was ever 100% the same after his landmark loss to Johansson. I don't think he ever quite showed the same fire & intensity after that as he had on the way up (like in the clip below), except maybe on isolated occasions.
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  6. mr. magoo

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    Williams and Valdez would concern me the most if I were Cus D’Amato
     
  7. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For what it’s worth, Machen was rated number 2 going into the ‘64 Patterson fight, having won 5 straight.
    While Patterson had been blasted out by Liston in 2 of his last 3 fights preceding the Machen bout.
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Machen was rated number 2, moreso based on his prior work before his trip to the looney bin. Similar to Williams, laughably becoming number 2 when he faced Ali.

    The men Machen beat were either unrated their entire careers or hadn’t seen a rating in years.
     
  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foley is the hardest fight.
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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