Educate me: Cleveland “BigCat” Williams

Die trying to argue me not real dying, you trying to convert my words to work in your favor but you failed again.

 

Choked on my sandwich from laughing at this.

 

lol Tuna, Mayo, and onions.

 

I think that's something we can all get behind.

 

Best post-work out snack ever.

 

So you're saying Toney was a more powerful HW than 1 that weighed 300+ lbs?

Or are you saying Valuev "wasn't a real HW" either?

Ruiz still couldn't stop him in 3 fights, & no one for the remainder of his career was able to even drop, let alone stop him except the 1 you claim "wasn't a real HW."

False, he also KO'd Corrie Sanders & drew w/ Tua in a fight many people thought he won & was unlucky not to be credited w/ a KD in the final second.

 

Valuev is not boxer at all and had no punch.
But Toney is not more powerful than that caveman.

Could not because that was Ruiz, who was one of the worst fighters of late 90s.
If Ruiz was bigger and had better punch he would stop Holyfield.

Corrie who?
Tua beat him and even stopped him in their previous fight, this one was a fair draw but that is the best thing Rahman did except knocking Lewis with Lucky punch.
Holyfield did not stop him by real stoppage but with headbutts.

 

Seems to be self imploding, lacking any self awareness, ala Michael “Buster” Douglas, the Cinderfella who turned back into a big pumpkin and meekly “fell down” in the Holyfield fight: -

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Y'know, I could totally picture BF as Foster- Only if he forgot how to type and wasn't racist.
"Have you ever heard the expression, 'The poster is always right'?"

 

Williams was KO’d as a LATE SUB vs Satterfield in ‘54.

Cleve himself only tipped the scales at 201 1/2 lbs as at the time of that fight.

Quite removed from the rock solid 210 1/4 lbs and 215 1/2 lbs Williams weighed for the Liston fights some 5-6 years later.

If the Satterfield fight legitimately reflected a weak set of whiskers on Cleve’s part, then there would’ve surely been more KO losses/glaring instances of being hurt between the Satterfield and Liston fights.

The FACT is there weren’t any similar examples of Williams being so badly hurt UNTIL until a more mature and heavier Williams faced Liston - and Liston was already well known for knocking out guys who were otherwise known to be well chinned.

Through to his being shot in 64, Williams only had KO losses to Satterfield and Liston against his name and there was about 5 years between those KO losses to two different opponents.

 

In the twentieth page of Saint William's thread we've finally begun to talk about tuna sandwiches.

 

It was on the undercard of Tyson vs Dempsey.

 

you are one big permanent mistake and your obsession with poor old Swag (add Williams as well) is starting to become somewhat disconcerting.