Evander Holyfield picks Tyson to beat everyone...except Usyk!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's because he never beat anyone worth a damn.
     
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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    How is he tailor made? Because of Frazier? Mike was better than Frazier. He was much faster and accurate than Frazier. If Foreman misses with his big swings, Mike is making him pay. Frazier wasn't a counter puncher like that. Frazier fought in a rhythm. His bobbing and weaving was not as reactive as Mike's. It was just random. Mike won't be caught that easily.

    Foreman was pretty good at punching down but that's not enough to think Mike is tailored to him. Mike's speed and precision counters are key. Not saying for sure Mike wins but I think it'd be a good fight.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    People like you think Iron Mike is a Joe Fraizer clone and he is not.
     
  4. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    We could say the same about Ibeabuchi, and maybe if we're being a little uncharitable, Liston, yet both are, rightly, considered head to head nightmares. My gut says Vitali is a head to head nightmare even if his record doesn't...
     
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    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do we?

    That’s a ridiculous comment given I didn’t even mention Joe Frazier.

    I can play that game too. People like you think Mike Tyson is some sort of superhuman despite all evidence to the contrary.

    See, I can make baseless comments too.
     
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    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Foreman: Foreman KOs Tyson in 4. Terrible matchup.

    Frazier: Very rough back and forth war at ring center. Tyson TKO's Frazier in 7.

    Wlad: Tyson goes through hell trying to get past the jab and overcome the annoying grabbing, leaning, and pot shot tactics to eventually land a nuclear uppercut winning by KO in 9. Really depends on the ref and ring size. Wlad could potentially win depending on those factors and what version of Tyson.

    Vitali: Very ugly fight. Tyson wins the early rounds, Vitali the middle rounds. Late rounds, both guys are pretty beat up and tired leaning on each other and throwing one shot at a time. Tyson gets the nod in a decision for better technique, cleaner shots, and having the early lead.

    Deontay Wilder: So long as Tyson takes him seriously from the start, he should wear him down with body shots and then clips him with ferocious hooks dropping Wilder 2-3x and stopping him within 5-6 rounds.

    Anthony Joshua: I think Joshua does better than people might expect. I'm not saying I'd favor him over Tyson, but the closest thing Tyson faced was Bruno who didn't have Joshua's body shots, timing, footwork, or uppercuts. Joshua also had better defense. I'd say Tyson either stops Joshua late or wins a convincing decision if both are at their best in a very exciting fight.

    Tyson Fury: Really depends on which version of both guys. Prime Tyson vs current Fury would be pretty ugly with Tyson wearing him down and stopping the gypsy within 6. At his best, Fury was no joke and could steal an upset depending on his tactics.

    Usyk: Hard to say. I want to lean towards Tyson, but Usyk is just so good in so many areas. I'm not sure Tyson would be able to get a KO, and if it goes the distance I'd have to favor Usyk. For now I'll slightly favor Usyk by a close decision.
     
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  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Same can be said for Tyson. What's his best win? Old Holmes? Light Heavyweight Spinks?
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi beat David Tua and Chris Byrd who actually beat Vitali.

    Vitali's best wins are Samuel Peter and a 38 year old Corrie Sanders.
     
  9. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    But neither of whom are 'great' fighters so not the highest of bars. I guess Vitali IS one of the divisions big 'what ifs' though, I'd agree on that!!
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks has one of the best victories of all time at Heavyweight dethroning ATG Larry Holmes.

    Spinks and Holmes had over 30 world title fights and over 100 fights and were only stopped by Mike Tyson so yes they are significant wins.

    Certainly better than the likes of Samuel Peter.
     
  11. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn’t have a chance against Foreman, would lose to the Klitschkos, if Fury can survive the onslaught, I wouldn’t be surprised if he beat him, but that’s a close one.
     
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    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad match would very much about who is the ref and who is the a side. I can Wlad winning winning with Povtking match kind of ref. Even without maybe but would favor Mike.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't entirely disagree but 38 year old Holmes is a better best win than Sam Peter or Corrie Sanders.
     
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