Top 20 Light-Heavyweights of all time

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Difficult list

    Subject to your opinion. Here is mine


    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Michael Spinks
    3. Archie Moore
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Gene Tunney
    6. Bob Foster
    7. Billy Conn
    8. Harry Greb
    9. Roy Jones Jr
    10. Tommy Loughran
    11. John Henry Lewis
    12. Harold Johnson
    13. Jimmy Bivins
    14. Tommy Gibbons
    15. Bob Fitzsimmons
    16. Saad Muhammad
    17. Victor Galindez
    18. Tommy Burns
    19. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    20. Lloyd Marshall

    * winner of Beterbiev-Bivol could move into top 10-15.
     
  2. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll give it a go:

    1. Charles
    2. Langford
    3. Moore
    4. Spinks
    5. Tunney
    6. Foster
    7. Conn
    8. Greb
    9. Loughran
    10. Fitz
    11. Bivins
    12. H. Johnson
    13. Norfolk
    14. RJJ
    15. Qawi
    16. Saad
    17. Delaney
    18. Galindez
    19. Gibbons
    20. Burns

    It's only recently dawned on me that when you consider every fighter that ever weighed between 161-175 lbs (not simply every fighter that won the title or officially competed @the weight), this might be the deepest division in history.
     
  3. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    I was gonna make a list of my own, but yours is pretty picture perfect. No need to clog up a thread, lol.
     
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  4. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you.

    The OP's list isn't too dissimilar from mine either, except I think Norfolk & Delaney deserve places somewhere on there.
     
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  5. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    That's true. It was just a matter of placement for me- Having Qawi over Saad, Galindez, and otherwise, the inclusion of Norfolk, and the ordering at the very top as well. When it comes to top lists like this, most aren't too dissimilar from one another.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People seem to rate Foster really highly on these lists but I don't see it personally his resume was not that strong and he reigned in a weak era for Light Heavyweights.

    Like for example I think Matthew Saad Muhammad has more notable wins over top Light Heavyweights. Yet no one rates Muhammad anywhere near Foster which is quite baffling to me.
     
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  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s a fine list
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say lightweight 135 …
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say Pastrano might sneak in there on the low end. Win against Johnson, win against Maxim, draw with Moore. Also deserves some points because he influenced Ali's style.
     
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  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1. Charles
    2. Langford
    3. Moore
    4. Spinks
    5. Tunneu
    6. Conn
    7. Foster
    8. RJJ
    9. Greb
    10. JH Lewis
    11. Loughran
    12. Harold Johnson
    13. Bivins
    14. Gibbons
    15. Beterbiev
    16. Saad Muhammad
    17. Galindez
    18. Burns
    19. Qawi
    20. Marshall/Kovalev tie

    Fitz was great but his peak was middleweight and heavyweight.

    People forget how good Kovalev was at his peak.

    Beterbiev is the most destructive force i have seen in my life. His win over a underrated guy like Gvozdyk is enough for me. H2H i think he could have beaten a lot of guys above him. I do agree that the winner of Beterbiev Bivol will likely get inside the top 10.
     
  11. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He weighed around 165-168 during his peak years, which would place him in the LHW range even then.
     
  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    In that case, given what he accomplished, a case for top 10 at lhw can be made. I'll have to think about it.
     
  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No John Henry Lewis though? Oversight or do you just not rate him? I’d like to know why if the latter.

    For me, I think I’d have James Scott in my top 20 (15-20 range). Like Tunney and Ezzard, he never held a title but as with those two he seems a likely champ if given the opportunity. He completely ran Eddie Mustafa Muhammad out of the ring, and EMM was a handful, and he also basically shut out Yaqui Lopez, who was top-ranked and gave both Saad and Galindez all they could handle. Plus quite a few other nice wins in a short career.

    (I wouldn’t argue with anyone who doesn’t think Scott quite makes the cut to join the top 20, but I would take issue with anyone who didn’t have him among the next tier.)
     
  14. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    A spot for "Great" Scott certainly isn't undeserved, those Rahway guys were tough.
     
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  15. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maxim needs to be on these lists. He’s prob more accomplished then most of these top tens
     
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