Top 15 Heavyweights 1950-1955

Is that your list ? Why LaStarza is so low ?

 

Bucceroni actually was the #1 contender after Valdez beat Charles...a lot of guys on this list never earned that distinction.

 

This is just a blatant underselling of Rex Layne, whos top 3 wins beat anything Bob Baker has, even if Bob Baker did beat a washed Layne. Unless youre referring to H2H matchups rather than achievement

my list would look something more like:

1. Marciano
2. Charles
3. Walcott
4. Moore
5. Louis
6. Layne
7. Valdez
8. Baker
9. LaStarza
10. Satterfield
11. Henry
12. Cockell
13. James J Parker
14. Bucceroni
15. Jackson

There's an argument for Moore over Walcott, to be honest

 

Layne's 50-52 run is the best run of anyone not in the top 5, he beat Walcott, Satterfield and Charles. Who else here beat both. He wasnt lucky to be gifted a decision against Brion, it was just close, the AP had it 7-3 for Layne. Quick reminder he was 34-1 (loss avenged multiple times) when he went in and got ruined by Marciano.

Valdes has better other names. I also put Charles over Walcott despite Charles going 1-2 against Walcott from 50-55.

Baker has wins over Brion, Layne multiple times, Valdez (twice), Bivins, Wallace etc and was more active in general in 55' so i gave him the nod.

Lost to Walcott, Lost to Moore multiple times and his one win was SD, Lost to Satterfield and only won because Satterfield ran hot and cold like crazy, Beat Valdez once, beat Charles. He should probably be on the lower end of my list, but i really felt like Bucceroni shouldve been on there and was conflicted

He also beat Matthews, LaStarza and Lloyd Marshall and was ranked 2nd

You are very offended by this take considering the fact that they fought to a draw lol. Which one of them beat Slade?

Washed versions of Layne and Charles, stopped by Valdez, beaten by Slade, wasnt overall impressed, Bucceroni was ranked #1 at one point, beat Slade, LaStarza (a really good LaStarza no less), Parker and Hein Ten Hoff. Prefer it slightly. Also just seemed to be more consistent during his run. Jackson also doesnt have any names from 50-51, hard to be ranked highly in a 50-55 list when you didnt fight for 2 of the 5 years, and were a rookie fighting nobodies during the 3rd.

 

Oof. What a horrible state of the division. Absolutely bottom rung wretched.

 

I'll give you 20.


Marciano
Ezzard Charles
Moore
Baker
Clarence Henry
Rex Layne
Walcott
Louis
Valdes
John Holman
Tommy Jackson
Harold Johnson
Slade
LaStarza
Satterfield
Cleveland Williams
Cesar Brion
Parker
Marty Marshall
Cockell

 

• Referee: Jack Watson 5-4
• Judge: Frank Forbes 3-7
• Judge: Harold Barnes 2-7

James Dawson, New York Times, scored the bout 7-3 for Brion, giving Layne rounds 1, 2 and 8. Associated Press scored the bout 7-3 Layne.
Dawson wrote:
“Plunging and tossing like a rudderless ship, Rex Layne, Lewiston, Utah, heavyweight, somehow or other managed to gain a decision over Cesar Brion, from the Argentine, in ten dull rounds of fighting at Madison Square Garden last night. And if there is any consolation in a moral victory, Brion has it. A crowd of 5,768 booed the verdict and it was plain that many, if not the majority, thought Brion had won.”

 

That has no proof that its a robbery lol

 

Think Joe Louis deserves a spot. Beat Bivins, Savold, Brion, agramonte, Beshore not to shabby

 

Oh stop lmao

 

Rex Layne is the most disrespected HW challenger all time on this forum. Men have accomplished 10x less and are given far more praise. His two crimes are being white and knocked out by Marciano. If he were in the 70s and he had wins against Patterson and Ellis people would be praising his name as an all time contender.

Clarence Henry would also not knock Laynes head off. Would be a good fight. The best version of Layne is more accomplished than everyone past Johnson on the list.

 

I didn't say it did,I just thought it germane to the conversation.Excuse me for interfering! I'm flying to Cape Verde today so I wont be around to annoy you for a while.