Ali's mental roadblock: Corky the neighborhood menace

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    "Driving around the old streets reminds me of a time when I was afraid to walk them. I was 16. In the gym, in boxing tournaments, in Central High, I was recognized as The King. I took on any fighter. I walked proud and confident, except when I heard Corky Baker was out on the streets. Whenever I walked through Snake Town or West End, with or without my gang, Corky was undisputed Lord of the Streets and wouldn't tolerate any rival. I had the Golden Gloves ahead of me, the AAU, the Olympics, all of which was confident I'd win. But the crown that would make me feel most confident as a fighter was held by Corky. He terrorized everyone, including me, and beat up everyone, including me, Already I'd made it krown that my ambition was to become the world heavyweight champion, but this made Corky laugh.

    His steady job was bouncer for the Dreamland Tavern, where he lifted rowdies and drunkards by the scruff of the neck and tossed them out. He made side money betting how high he could lift the front end of Cadillacs from a flat stance, or occasionally a truck if the bet was good enough. I'd had several run-ins with him, and each time I came out on the bottom. It was beginning to shake me up. I had the feeling that unless I could whip Corky, with all my training, roadwork and boxing science, it really wasn't much use going into boxing as a profession. On the other hand, I felt if I could whip Corky, I could beat anyone in the world.

    I had enough confidence to brag about how I might whip him if we ever got into the ring, but someone overheard me and went back and told Corky. He was outraged, indignant, insulted; in fact, he got mad. For weeks, rumors circulated around Louisville's black community about the coming bloody showdown between Cassius Clay and Corky Baker. It created as much stir in the little town as a big fight did years later between Joe Frazier and me, and in its way it was just as important to me. I knew it was suícíde to fight him on the streets with no rules or referee or regulations, so I took him on for a fight in the Columbia Gym. 'That's not real fighting,' Corky said, but the hecklers laughed at him and he quickly accepted.

    When the bell rang, Corky rushed out, swinging rights and lefts that nearly took off the referee's head but missed mine. By then I had perfected the art of leaning back, circling, jabbing, and in a few minutes I was pouring lefts into his face from every angle, while nothing he threw hit me. When the round ended, he had thrown so many punches so fast and furious that he was breathing like he had gone 10 rounds. My right crosses had blackened his eye and bIoodied his nose, and his mouth was bIeeding. Before the second round was over he suddenly stopped in the middle of the round, screamed out, 'HeII, no! This ain't fair!' and staggered out of the ring into the dressing room, got his clothes on and left the gym. My classmates from Central High shouted and jumped for joy, lifted me up on their shoulders. I was the new king of both the gym and the streets.

    Later, I asked an old friend where Corky was now. Through the years Corky had kept up with my career and we'd gotten to be friends of a sort. 'Corky's deąd. Got kiIIed a week ago.' He went out the way he came in, fighting in the streets,".


    - Muhammad Ali



    It's interesting that Ali felt he needed to get over this mental road black of his past before he could take on the big boys of the professional ranks. This was quite the confidence booster. You have to face your fears.
     
  2. My dinner with Conteh

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  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice post, I heard about this story few years ago when Ali talked in interview about his childhood bully and how he beat him.

    I also heard that Ali liked Baker, that used to send him letters when Corky was in jail and that Corky was killed in a shootout with the police if my memory serves me right.
     
  4. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I found this:

    "Corkey Baker and Ali later became friends. Ali would even send him money or write him when Corkey would end up in jail. After tough fights, Ali would call Corkey up to ask his opinion on how he looked. Baker was killed in a shootout with the police during a robbery."
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn’t Marvin Hagler have his own “Corkey,” someone in the neighborhood who beat him up, prompting him to learn to box. And then Marvin beat him in a fight?
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arnold's favorite nemesis, he was mentioned a lot but never shown on camera.
     
  7. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depending on perspective, Corky could be right that, “real fighting” doesn’t take place in a Boxing ring. Of course, that’s a controversial statement, because men give everything, upto & including their very lives, fighting in this manner. But from a certain perspective, it’s not untrue in coldly objective terms.

    I wonder if this completely satisfied Ali, or if he felt he’d found a back door way to overcome Corky, & sort of, “gamed the system” of overcoming ones fear (like killing a shark, but doing it on land). Perhaps it felt somewhere in between. Who knows.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I recall reading this in Muhammad's 'The Greatest: My Own Story.
     
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Out For Milk Full Member

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    Do we have any proof of his Corky’s existence? Just curious.
     
  11. SolomonDeedes

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    He seems to have been Charley Baker, who does indeed appear on Ali's amateur record as a decision win in 1958. As an old friend recalled in 1997:

    He came through one night and said, 'I'm going to box Charley Baker' on the Tomorrow's Champions show. Well, I told him, 'You're crazy if you get in the ring with him.' See, Charley Baker was the bully of the West End. I mean, people wouldn't even talk too loud around Charley Baker. He was huge and muscular. But Cassius said, 'I'm gonna whip him,' and he did whip him. And after that, I said, 'Man, you are the baddest dude I know, now.'


    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-courier-journal-cassius-clay-charl/155259515/
     
  12. Journeyman92

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    Real fighting is philosophical to answer ain’t it?
     
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  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I didn't know this, good triv. I was referring to an episode that Ali was in. The main bit I remember was Arnold talking in his sleep and Ali visited (to help him with The Gooch). Ali said "It's the champ", Arnold replies "Joe Louis?" :D
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Yes, it seemed to just be a psychological thing. He wanted to get over this fear and build confidence that the guy who used to terrorize the neighborhood and beat him up was nothing to him in boxing.

    Corky was a brawler and a brute who relied on sheer strength, so Ali probably thought that if the "sweet science" didn't work on him, he was wasting time doing all that training. A boxer should be able to beat a brawling street fighter in a boxing match, and Ali wanted to face his fears so that when he faced the true monsters in the pro ranks he wouldn't be nervous.
     
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