Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Edgar Berlanga & Erislandy Lara Santoya vs. Daniel Óscar García RBR

i've seen that video before.

 

If that is all that Canelo has left these days, a rematch with Bivol is pointless. Last night was nothing more than a glorified sparring session. Very few meaningful punches attempted, and, even fewer landed. I can see why Canelo is avoiding Bennavidez.

 

Haha, that makes sense because I was at the fight and it made zero sense to quit like he did, everyone was happy the fight was over though so no one really care to figure out why he quit… Was hoping someone that watched it on the TV knew why but after your answer it all makes sense

 

Not super high tbh. As of my reply here it's tied with Usyk vs. Gassiev for #97 all-time.

 

"How does IB know these things? Is it some sorcery?"

No, you just go to forum view and sort by replies in descending order. Then ctrl+f, search each page for "RBR" (but also make sure to check for "Round By Round" as CST has used that format in recent times for big fights). Pretty simple, sorcery-free.

Anyway, since my last post my brain has been itching with the impulse to list out the full top 100 all time list. The demons have won.

1. Usyk vs. Fury I/Opetaia vs. Breidis II - 4,745 replies
2. Joshua vs. Wallin/Wilder vs. Parker - 4,214 replies
3. Joshua vs. Usyk I - 3,490 replies
4. Usyk vs. Joshua II - 3,339 replies
5. Zhāng vs. Wilder - 3,160 replies
   
6. Pacquiao vs. Bradley I - 3,043 replies
7. Fury vs. Wilder III - 3,022 replies
8. Canelo vs. BJS - 2,867 replies
9. Madrimov vs. Crawford - 2,755 replies
10. Joshua vs. Parker - 2,748 replies
11. Joshua vs. Ngannou - 2,541 rplies
12. Mayweather vs. Guerrero - 2,334 replies
13. Bivol vs. Canelo - 2,328 replies
14. Mayweather vs. Maidana I - 2,265 replies
15. Ruiz vs. Joshua II - 2,263 replies
16. Mayweather vs. Cotto - 2,252 replies
17. Kovalev vs. Canelo - 2,205 replies
18. Usyk vs. Chisora - 2,139 replies
19. Spence vs. Crawford - 2,090 replies
20. Golovkin vs. Canelo II - 2,076 replies
21. Wilder vs. Fury I - 2,074 replies
22. Mayweather vs. Berto - 2,070 replies
23. Chisora vs. Parker - 2,034 replies
24. Usyk vs. Bellew - 2,031 replies
25. Haney vs. Lomachenko - 1,987 replies
26. Fury vs. Ngannou - 1,976 replies
27. Joshua vs. Povetkin - 1,975 replies
28. (Daniel) García vs. Morales - 1,951 replies
    
29. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao - 1,923 replies
30. Joshua vs. Helenius - 1,919 replies
31. Joshua vs. Ruiz I - 1,916 replies
32. Whyte vs. Parker - 1,884 replies
33. Golovkin vs. Jacobs - 1,855 replies
34. Fury vs. Chisora II - 1,813 replies
35. Povetkin vs. Whyte II - 1,796 replies
36. (Daniel) García vs. Peterson - 1,779 replies
    
37. Canelo vs. Trout - 1,750 replies
38. Mayweather vs. Canelo - 1,742 replies
39. JMM vs. Fedchenko - 1,716 replies
40. Cotto vs. Margarito II - 1,695 replies
41. Donaire vs. Rigondeaux - 1,678 replies
42. Ward vs. Kovalev II - 1,659 replies
43. Linares vs. Mitchell - 1,650 replies
44. Bute vs. Froch - 1,648 replies
45. Joyce vs. Dubois - 1,635 replies
    45. (tie) Cotto vs. Canelo - 1,635 replies
46. Lomachenko vs. López - 1,631 replies
47. Haney vs. (Ryan) García - 1,630 replies
48. Lomachenko vs. Campbell - 1,622 replies
49. Pacquiao vs. JMM IV - 1,610 replies
50. Kovalev vs. Ward - 1,603 replies
51. Brook vs. Spence - 1,600 replies
52. Canelo vs. Lara - 1,588 replies
53. Mayweather vs. Maidana II - 1,582 replies
54. Wilder vs. Fury II - 1,578 replies
55. Golovkin vs. Lemieux - 1,557 replies
56. Bradley vs. Provodnikov - 1,552 replies
57. Bradley vs. Pacquiao II - 1,550 replies ***
58. Crawford vs. Porter - 1,545 replies
59. Canelo vs. Charlo - 1,543 replies
60. Taylor vs. Prograis - 1,536 replies
61. Mayweather vs. McGregor - 1,525 replies
    63. (tie) Martínez vs. Chávez Jr. - 1,525 replies
62. Broner vs. Maidana - 1,517 replies
63. Whyte vs. Rivas - 1,511 replies
64. Golovkin vs. Canelo I - 1,489 replies
65. Usyk vs. Dubois - 1,487 replies
66. Kambosos vs. Haney - 1,485 replies
67. Joshua vs. Pulev - 1,482 replies
68. Shields vs. Marshall - 1,479 replies
69. López vs. Kambosos - 1,477 replies
    
70. Beterbiev vs. Yarde - 1,475 replies
71. Taylor vs. Serrano - 1,474 replies
72. Klitschko vs. Fury - 1,447 replies
    74. (tie) Joshua vs. Molina - 1,447 replies
73. Ward vs. Froch - 1,441 replies
74. Tarver vs. Kayode - 1,439 replies
75. Canelo vs. Jacobs - 1,420 replies
76. Tszyu vs. Fundora - 1,409 replies
77. Malignaggi vs. Broner - 1,407 replies
78. Haye vs. Bellew - 1,402 replies
79. Canelo vs. Smith - 1,396 replies
80. Wilder vs. Ortiz - 1,385 replies
81. Davis vs. (Héctor) García - 1,384 replies
82. Stiverne vs. Wilder I - 1,373 replies
83. Hopkins vs. Dawson II - 1,365 replies
84. Spence vs. (Miguel) García - 1,362 replies
85. Porter vs. Brook - 1,360 replies
86. Bivol vs. Sánchez - 1,355 replies
87. Froch vs. Groves I - 1,344 replies
88. Charlo vs. Castaño - 1,342 replies
89. Froch vs. Kesller II - 1,338 replies
90. Fulton vs. Inoue - 1,330 replies
    93. (tie) Pacquiao vs. Bradley III - 1,330 replies
91. Pacquiao vs. Broner - 1,329 replies
92. Salido vs. López - 1,320 replies
93. Canelo vs. Berlanga - 1,311 replies (as of this one)
94. Usyk vs. Gassiev - 1,309 replies
95. Groves vs. Eubank Jr. - 1,305 replies
    99. (tie) Jack vs. DeGale - 1,305 replies
96. Parker vs. Chisora II - 1,302 replies
97. Ugás vs. Pacquiao - 1,286 replies
    
98. Pacquiao vs. JMM III - 1,283 replies
99. Hopkins vs. Shumenov - 1,280 replies
100. Joshua vs. Whyte - 1,278 replies

Took all of 10-15 minutes to compile that.

*** Technically, between Bradley vs. Pacquiao II and Crawford vs. Porter you have the Lucian Bute vs. Edison Miranda thread at 1,549 replies - but it started out as just a preview/prediction thread and was put up 2 months before the fight. It does contain a few pages of what amounted to an on-the-fly RBR by committee, but eh, it already had a hundred page head start before the bell rang so this one could maybe slot in at #59 (sliding everything behind it down by 1) but would need to get a pretty big asterisk.

 

Either that or Beterbiev.

 

for this fight, two things are worth mentioning:

1. Given how dominant he was, any sane commentator would be talking about him in a positive light.

2. This fight was in Vegas. Vegas has a ton of Mexican Americans and Mexican immigrants. Canelo is Mexican. This is Mexican Independence Day weekend. Venue selected for this reason yeah, but any Mexican would get a warm welcome in Vegas when up against a Puerto Rican. ****, the pride thing is in the bones or something. My wife is Mexican. I’m just a gringo. We watched the fight with our 7 year old. I tried explaining to the kid that “hey, Puerto Rico is part of America, and you’re American too” and she was like “da le una chinga Canelo!” Mind you, she’s a no sabo kid and my Spanish is better than hers.

the fix here was the mismatch. I can’t imagine the level of corrupt judging it would have taken to not give Cabelo the win.

but hows this different than Louis’s bum of the month club? Cherry picks are just part of the game. And if you’re the most famous Mexican fighter in the world, fight on Mexican Independence day weekend and can charge a **** ton for the ppv buy and sell well despite the mismatch…

 

Rigged isn't the right word. I should have said "staged." All of Canelo's fights feel this way. Even when he fought GGG. GGG clearly won the first fight but everything is so hyped for Canelo, they erupt every time he does anything. If his fights were fought in neutral venues, he would have 3 or 4 more losses on his resume. His nickname ought to be Canelo "the cherry picker" Alvarez.

 

hes hit peak and started rolling down the other side already, but hes still performing at elite levels. his dedication to the prep side is keeping him sharp. his reflexes and reaction time are still there, but i suspect he can only perform in spurts now. berlanga basically allowed him to work at his most comfortable pace, and he was still huffing and puffing in the post fight interview 5 minutes after the fight. i think benavidez would push a pace that would be a problem for 12.
also, i was surprised at how big berlanga really is next to canelo. dwarfed him. canelo cant one punch stop these big guys, he needs to break them down, and his pace really doesnt lend itself to chopping down big durable guys. but i dont see anyone at 168 that could beat him right now.

 

Berlanga was massive compared to Canelo. I don't know how he makes 168. Did they mention fight weights?

 

seriously. Berlanga looks like he walks around at 200.

 

Caught the highlights and from the looks of it I didn’t really miss much from last nights card. The Plant and Fulton fights seemed really fun though.

 

The free undercard fights were the best fights of the night.

 

Parroting casual

 

It turns out he was just protecting his hairline