Cowards in the ring

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  1. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree that (almost) everyone who steps into a ring against a professional is exceptionally brave. Bruce Seldon, too. He fought tough men and beat them. But he apparently misjudged himself when he agreed to take that fight with Tyson. Hundreds of thousands of people pay their hard-earned money to see a big promotion. You owe it to them to give it your best, even if you know you're going to suffer a knockout. The inept no-hoper Peter McNeeley understood that. He knew he had no chance against Tyson but he went in there swinging. I made the post to generate comments and to move the board away from fictional matches. I, myself, am admittedly a coward. I never could fight a lick. I tried once at a university boxing smoker. The opponent was selected for me. He was a bigger, stronger guy. I tried to duck his first punch, a right hand that landed flush on my forehead. I didn't go down but I held. The referee saw I was in trouble and stopped it immediately. The whole thing lasted three seconds. The next morning I couldn't move. Only with the help of a masseuse could I get out of bed. Anyone with the courage to fight in the prize ring has my respect.
     
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  2. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don’t have to be able to fight to qualify as brave.
     
  3. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post, New! Thanks for sharing!
     
  4. BCS8

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    Fair point. Credit where it's due.
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Totally agree....where's the Alpo?
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Indeed. Anybody accusing ANY boxer of cowardice from the safe side of the ropes is on extremely shaky ground.
     
  7. Alexandrow Vids

    Alexandrow Vids Active Member Full Member

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    Liston and Duran gave up because they were annoyed by Ali and Leonard constantly dancing in the ring and dodging punches, but that has nothing to do with being a coward, just more
    like - "I'm not in the mood for this **** anymore." -
    And Bear? I have no idea what you're talking about. He got knocked out against Louis and couldn't get up.
     
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  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's it. Duran and Liston had the image of being the macho man's macho men! It was the fear of humilation at the hands of Muhammad and Ray. Not of being hurt.
     
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    Spinks amateur career culminated in a gold medal in the 76 Olympics.

    He emerged victorious in an era of near murderers row of light heavyweights. Stepped into the ring and defeated a beast in Dwight Qawi 2 months after the death of his wife.

    After dominating the light heavyweights for years he stepped straight up to Heavyweight and beat a reigning ATG in Holmes who, tho declining, was still getting past big men in tough and was a raging hot favorite to beat Spinks in a fight where barely a soul gave Spinks a chance.

    I can only dream of matching his level of cowardice in my lifetime and if i did it would be so far fetched i'd wake up instantly lol
     
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    Best post in the thread and one that actually fulfills the brief on multiple levels even if he is a nobody.

    He's an absolute piece of **** and the only bad thing that would have come out of someone decking him and his head cracking on the pavement would have been the other guy getting in trouble. It was funny for a long while but then the grub took it 5 levels deeper.

    It would have been great if a couple of those guys didn't pull up on him. Would it have stopped him trying to take advantage of unsuspecting guys later on? Probably not i guess but it would have been enjoyable to see.

    For what he did in his last fight i'm going to label Luis Resto an absolute coward even if he put the gloves on many many times prior to that. I just can't get past it.
     
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    You two would be an elite match to have a beer together. It works on sooooo many levels.
     
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    Jeff Ryan/John Mugabi. Remember it well.
     
  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’d say this applies more to guys who fouled opponents purposefully to get out of the fight rather than people who quit because they were getting beaten up or outboxed, at least they have the integrity to admit they weren’t good enough on the night.
     
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    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You'll be that one crazy Kimbo Slice mental friend that would be the judge.
     
  15. BoxingFan2002

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    Liston and Duran quit because they were badly beaten and embarassed by better skilled men.

    Baer could get up but didn't want to.