Oleksandr Usyk Versus Mike Tyson

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Who wins?

  1. Usyk

    20.5%
  2. Tyson

    79.5%
  1. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is not just the power its the speed, the above "might" look fast for big guys but Tyson's speed was in another zipcode, including counter punching and combos. There is a reason he put 6'5 Quality fighters in a shell.

    Tyson is faster than Usyk and will land first, that is the exact opposite what Usyk is facing right now, the speed advantage is gone.

    Then there is the question how Usyk deals with body punches, the first knock down vs Spinks who never had been knocked down was a Body punch.

    IMO, Tyson stops Gassiev, Joshua and Dubois, some very quick.
     
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruddock doesn’t have the boxing IQ to take advantage of certain situations like Usyk does, it’s not about power, it’s about knowing when a man wants to take a rest and taking advantage of that.
     
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    Tyson will have some early successes but Usyk is too smart with a solid chin and once past the half way point will take over and stop Mike late
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    Again where are you getting that Tyson is going to suddenly fade in the later rounds ? He went the distance multiple times comfortably. Infact during a ridiculous schedule where he had 29 fights in 2 years which is more professional fights than Usyk has had in a decade, Tyson went 10 rounds or more 4 times during that period comfortably.

    Usyk couldn't stop Chisora who gave him a hard nights work but yet you think he stops Tyson ? I'm not getting that logic. And Chisora was completely gassed in the 2nd half of the fight aswell and Usyk never came close to stopping him.
     
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  6. Devon

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    Because mid-rounds after Tyson’s done his early onslaught, he’s gonna want to rest a bit more whilst still on the front foot, but just lowering the volume, but Usyk wouldn’t let his m because he’d pick up on that and he’d force Tyson to work, even if it is just defensively, but when you’re already tired, you get tired more quickly the more tired you get, and I feel that’s how Usyk would wear him down, by forcing him to work in some way stayed Tyson wants his rest after his early onslaught.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't think it's a good argument at all when has Tyson gassed when going the distance ?
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Remind me what Gassiev did at Heavyweight ?

    Joshua fought passive vs Usyk he was still in between styles after the Ruiz fights.

    Dubois shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Tyson.

    Tyson is an ATG elite pressure fighter with fantastic defense great body punching and dynamite in both hands.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    He hasn't. Usyk making Tyson work after the opening rounds, if he survives, is why Tyson will have chances to stop him late. Tyson's so called resting after the opponent survived the early rounds was Tyson slowing down a pace that was too fast to keep up for 12 rounds. He'd built a lead virtually every time and still kept increasing it after throttling back. If the opponent came at him Tyson going to relish it. Usyk isn't going to have the success clinching and leaning on him to reduce the heat like Tucker and Bonecrusher did.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    But Tyson didn't rest after the mid rounds it's just his opponents mostly fought to survive when going the distance.

    Bonecrusher held him all night along.

    Tucker after the first 3 rounds went into a defensive shell.

    Tyson was still punching hard in the later rounds vs Ruddock, Tillis, he even scored a 10th round stoppage over Ribatla.

    Usyk is not going to be ultra defensive vs Tyson he will be trying to win and Tyson will have opportunities to exchange punches with him and sink in some hurtful body punches which Usyk has been hurt by in multiple fights where he's shown clear distress.

    Usyk is not going to clinch Tyson on the inside repeatedly to nullify his offence hence Usyk will have a steam train coming at him and he doesn't have the power to deter Tyson who has an iron chin.

    ATG pressure/swarmer like Tyson and Frazier would be a nightmare for a boxer like Usyk.
     
  11. Reinhardt

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    Seriously?
     
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    You can admit that his output did tend to drop as the rounds went on because of how energy extensive his style was no?
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    Yes but he didn't gas Tyson could go the distance comfortably. Usyk couldn't stop an exhausted Chisora who past his prime in late rounds he's not stopping a peak Tyson.
     
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    Worse fighters then Usyk have stopped Tyson but sure I can admit its not a likely scenario.
     
  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    If Tyson focuses his attack on the body and does it steadily instead of trying to blow Usyk out early, he definitely can win here. Its up to Tyson whether he wins or loses this match, if he gets obsessed with headhunting Usyk will take a UD.