Let’s stop pretending Usyk beat Dubois please.

I've seen shots that were lower that never received a sanction by a ref, I've seen shots that were higher that were still called low/questionable. I don't personally doubt it was a low blow, from my eyes it was definitely low. I don't think the outcome of the fight was changed by the ruling though, in no way was Dubois ever in control during that fight. And Usyk's character, I personally am of the position that had it not been called, he just would've forced himself through it.

And that's the main issue with the back n forth controversy, Dubois fanatics are claiming it changed the future tempo of the fight, it didn't.

 

In perfect complement to the above photo, this image below was captured a nano sec later, after the punch contacted. There are obvious reference points from the above image and the image below that indicate that Usyk's trunks were lifted upon and during impact of the punch which travelled upward. People actually need to stop pretending that it wasn't a low blow.

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As to Usyk not being able to take it to the body. The time stamped clip below shows Usyk taking what was perhaps Dubois best legit body punch of the fight in round 6. Note that Usyk doesn't react unduly or drop to the deck when he's hit with a legit punch - and that was an extremely powerful shot landed by Dubois.

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* Usyk wasn't wearing his trunks high, and he was pulling down on Dubois's head, altering the trajectory of the punch.
* The shot connected at a point below his beltline, and in the still used by Danie's supportrers was still below Usyk's belt as it continued its path.

So, the shot was low and since Pabon (normally an awful referee) was in actually in position to see it, he was correct in calling it.

Where Pabon went wrong, and where Dubois might have had a case had he chosen to take this tact, is that the officially gave Usyk about a minute's worth of extra rest after Usyk initially signalled he was ready to go. That contravenes the WBA policy of having their officials encourage fighers to continue while at the same time giving them up to five minutes of rest. You'll often hear officials saying something to the effect of "You good? You got five minutes?" in these types of situations. That's why.

I dont know if that minute or so of essentially free rest makes a difference. Personally, I think Usyk finds his way back into the fight at some point fairly quickly. But it's the one thing that Dubois's supporters might have had a case in pursuing, rather than whether the blow itself was actually low.

 

It makes my skin crawl to have to give Pabon credit for anything, by the way. Just a hideous feeling.

 

Look at you all triggered

Talk about arrogance coming from an Aj fan
How did your pick work on Saturday?

No we are different, you jump on and off bandwaggons because you like winners, not boxing

You jump from Aj to Usyk. You never ate any crow for your spastic opinion about Aj

Fury lost a competitive fight and if he gets demolished in December, I am man enough to say I got it wrong

I told you that Aj was useless, but you didn't listen to reason, because you know f..k all about boxing. You couldn't understand that Fury underperformed vs Ngannou and Wallin and actually thought Aj was a world beater following those fights? Lol

Clueless

 

We will just have to wait and see

 

Just like your pick in May, lol. Where's the arrogance?

I don't jump on bandwagons, I'm just not a fanboy like you. I still like AJ and I back everything I said about him. Dubois was a better man on Saturday and I give him his flowers as he 100% derves it.

I liked Usyk since he beat Glowacki. After he proved me 3 times wrong (Gassiev fight and 2x AJ) he became one of my favorites. That's how it works.

AJ wasn't useless, he had a very good resume, beat more Top 10s than Fury and Wilder put together. And that's what I like - facing the top competition. Fury might have underperformed against Ngannou and Wallin, but I guess you will never say it about AJ right? He can't underperform, he's just "useless". Cause you're a fanboy. Searching for excuses to back up your favorite fighter and bashing his rival just because it's his rival. It's funny actually. But that's a fanboy mindset.

 

At the time I was convinced it was a body shot now I've had many months to reflect on it the punch was definitely low according to the rules. But I don't think it was low enough that it hit Usyk in his crown jewels, part of the punch landed on his abdomen and in the bladder era so it was a bit low but still borderline and I've seen similar shots that have been given.

 

Hello Anthony

 

It was below the belly button which is illegal and after that shot Usyk completely dominated Dubois leading to him quiting.

 

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Also notice USYK W-KO 9/12

And that's the way it will always be recorded and remembered.

 

As it pertains to the Dubois fight you gotta love the sliding MO employed to impugn Usyk in any way possible.

First port of call, claim the blow wasn’t low.

But then, it’s pointed out correctly that, relative to where Usyk’s trunks sat, the blow was most definitely low.

Okay then, let’s ignore that Dubois’ trunks sat so much higher and blindly claim that Usyk wears his trunks too high - but then that claim was also duly debunked.

What can we try on now? We must discredit Usyk!

Alrighty, let’s ride the claim that the blow was only partially low and that many similar blows, all be they STILL illegal, have been let go in other fights.

Nah, it was fully low relative to trunks worn at the proper height and while it was the most blatant and damaging, it most certainly wasn’t the only low blow that Dubois landed.

Allowance of similarly illegals blows does not impugn Usyk, it impugns officialdom.

What possible final ditch effort is there left to try on?

Of course, - “Yeah, it was low but Usyk should’ve manned up and copped it sweet”.

Lol…NO.

Usyk is a very clean fighter.

He has every right to expect to be treated in kind and highlight any breaches by his opponent that the ref inappropriately chooses to ignore.

Bottom line - it’s not Usyk who has to cheat in order to win.

Finally, I’ve been hit hard in the stomach (badly winded) and hit square in the nuts (omg, I’m dying!) and both impacts shared multiple, common symptoms.

 

Dubois didn't knock Usyk out.
And Usyk didn't knock Fury out.

 

Ends the discussion right there.