Who Was The Dirtiest Of The Heavyweight Champions?

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  1. mcvey

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    Which of the lineal heavyweight kings was the worst for fouling?
    Tyson?
    A N Other?
     
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    Ruiz,Akinwande
     
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    Rocky on the night he fought poor Don Cockell!
     
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    "Sadly for Cockell, Marciano also knew what he was doing.

    The list of fouls is long and specific, put together by witnesses on the night, compiled for a hopeful dossier of complaint: kidney shots, the low blows, the head butts, the elbows, the shoulder, the shots after the bell, the clear punch when Cockell was down. The fouls are numbered, catalogued, grieved over, but Cockell never uttered a word through his swollen lips on the night. He just shook his head when asked if he thought Marciano would have been thrown out in a British ring. He would have, by the way.

    There is a glorious moment in round seven when Marciano talks about getting his “combinations going”. At that exact moment he connects with a left hook, a perfect left elbow and then a perfect butt. Yes, that combination. It is classic. Cockell takes all three, turns to the referee and half-smiles. Cockell had no protection that night and the violation continued through sundown.

    Marciano hits Cockell low from the opening minute until the end at fifty-four seconds of round 9. Cockell has been dropped, he has been sick in the corner from the low shots, he is cut, he is badly dazed, he is staggering, but he is still trying to fight. Still swinging. “What a man he is, what a heart,” Marciano utters as his hand is raised."
     
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  5. SonnyListon>

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    Evander Holyfield imo
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Bowe probably.
     
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  7. Pedro_El_Chef

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    Marciano. He was downright masterful.

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    The others that come close are Dempsey and Baer.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dempsey, Marciano or Holyfield are all good answers. Don't think it could be said one is worse than the other.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

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    I think Marciano, Liston,Tyson and Holyfield are prob the most well known. But let’s face it everyone at the top was accused of doing things. You don’t get to the top w out a few dirty tricks. Ali and Holmes used to poke eyes. Seen Walcott do people dirty, Bowe, Lewis, Wlad. Everyone did little things like hold and hit, headbutt, step on feet, elbows to the throat, hold and lean, low blows etc. The most consistently dirty on video is prob Marciano or Holyfield. Tyson got real dirty when frustrated the others were just dirty in style
     
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  10. SonnyListon>

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    Excuse my ignorance but wasn't Dempsey just a product of his time taking advantage of an underdeveloped rule set?
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Meh. He was known as a dirty fighter in his time. I don't think things like hitting after the bell were every legal.
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

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    Stop you know Liston was accused of many dirty things. He was no goodie two shoes
     
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  14. MaccaveliMacc

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    Lineal champions. And Akinwade wasn't even a champion, just a minor title holder.
     
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  15. The Long Count

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    Bowe was very dirty

    Marciano and Holyfield good shouts

    Post prison Tyson was crazy trying to break arms and bite ears
     
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