Do you think the damage Fury and Wilder gave eachother substantially affected them as fighters?

Had 21 bouts trained for years and years, watched the sport 20 years. Joshua won 5 rounds max over 2 fights with Usyk. Fury won at least 5 in that fight.

 

To be honest how dominant Fury was progressively looking there it looked like he was on course to go onto force a stoppage but Usyk isn't just a technician he's a warrior and I also think Fury didn't for one second believe Usyk had that in him.

 

Usyk had ridden out tough periods in previous fights. He was never going to fold like a cheap suit.

After Usyk’s great start rds 1-3 and then Fury’s comeback successes from rds 4-6, I think it was based far more on wishful thinking on the part of Fury fans than material evidence that Olek was about to go.

Suffice to say, Olek certainly wasn’t anywhere near gone as Fury was in Rd 9.

 

Barely winning a round and winning 5 rounds is a significant difference don't you think? And Fury didn't win AT LEAST 5. He won 5 AT MOST. The general consensus is, he won 4.

 

I didn't see round 4 as clear for Fury but fair enough as he did win it by a margin that can be considered such.

 

I would pick that Fury against the Usyk Fury actually fought, but we've never seen Usyk "absolutely battered". Most likely Fury keeps up his level from rounds 4-6 and wins a decision. However, Usyk is nowhere near his best either, his footwork is obviously slower than before, and he needs this to overcome Fury's size advantage.

 

Usyk's mate trains me this is a bloke called Oleksandr Trivinof who boxed Usyk twice as an amateur, traveled with him for 6 years on the amateur team and has helped him sparring for a lot of his pro fights.

He told me he's never ever seen Usyk getting out boxed like he was in the first half of that fight. That just goes back to the reality of the situation no offense but a lot of people like you probably watch the sport for the entertainment and drama like you probably would the pop idol final with will young vs gareth gates and you pick who's "won" a fight based on who you like more or what the commentators say unless it's a ko or total domination.

People who know the sport saw a very close fight, yes Usyk won it but he needed to dig deep down and use every bit of his incredible talent to win it.

I had it 114-113 Usyk and while I thought there were 1 or 2 very close rounds in there I'm pleased Usyk won because if I was a referee I'd have stopped it in round 8. The heart Fury showed there for me meant he deserved to finish the fight standing but in a rematch if either fighter is in that situation I hope it gets waved off.

 

I haven't noticed much dip in Usyk but at 37 there very possibly has been one. Ultimately I can't feel sorry for Fury if he has declined more than Usyk because being a consumate dedicated professional outside the ring is part of the sport.

Fury embarrassed himself and the sport showing up the way he did against N'Gannou but having said that, I think that he's going to come into this rematch not only fitter and sharper than he did in the first Usyk fight but also more focused.

I'm expecting another very interesting fight here and I wouldn't be completly writing Fury off the way most people are.

 

I said 5 rounds max and the only clear round he won was round 10 of the rematch. There's an argument for Usyk in every other round of both fights. Even in that round 10 of the rematch if I remember correctly Usyk ended up finishing the stronger of the 2 in that round and appeared no where near as hurt as the commentators made out.

The hype from the media Joshua gets is obscene, after being comprehensively outboxed twice against Usyk then looking well below par vs Franklin and Helenius, all the TV pundits suddenly made him out to be the number 1 heavyweight again because he beat Wallin and N'Gannou dominantly.

Hearn, Bellew and the many brainless pundits on TV and clueless fans on here who lap up everything they say were basically going on like it was a matter of fact and formality that Joshua would beat Usyk now he'd partnered with boxercise Ben. There should be virtually 0 demand for a 3rd fight based off how the first 2 went and Dubois proved that in my opinion.

 

Well, Usyk beat Fury clearly too, but you still want to argue he won 6 or even 7 rounds, so you have something in common with these clueless AJ fanboys, lol.

 

Considering you are strongly coming across as an AJ fan boy and I gave a very fair and realistic assessment of what happened in the fight in which I said I just shaded it to Usyk and if I was a referee I probably would have stopped Fury in round 8 I don't come across that way at all.

Basically you're another one riding on Joshua's ball sack, got a big dose of reality last month so you're throwing shade at people who talk the truth. You can't construct a proper argument against anything I said so you just throw out petty insults.

 

The trilogy knocked 25% off Fury and completely finished Wilder.

Credit to both warriors for facing each other and the 3rd fight was the best World Heavyweight Fight in the era.

 

Good post. Yes, Fury has a real chance in the rematch, it's no foregone conclusion.

I've been following Usyk since the WSB before he turned pro, I'm sure his legs are quite a lot slower than before (some of this will be due to weight gain as well, but some of it is age). That's the main aspect, he still seems pretty fast otherwise.

 

I had the same score with respect to rounds but scored round 9 10-8 so my math was 115-113 AT THE FIGHT ITSELF. However after watching the fight again alone I had it 116-112.

 

Nope, Wilder was exposed but I don’t think either man suffered any long term damage.