Did Randall have his number or Chavez lost simply because he was outta his prime?

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  1. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure most fans pick the mythological "prime" Tyson to defeat Douglas had they fought before, is this the same for Chavez?
    Let's suppose Chavez reverts to his prime in order to face Randall, what's the result? Is this another case of a fighter ruining his prime by losing his discipline or Randall simply had the right tools and gameplan to beat any version?
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I'm of the opinion Chavez was just past it. Hard style of fighting to maintain when your past it.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I think Randall had the style and the confidence to always trouble Chavez tbh.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m undecided. A part of me thinks that the Chavez of three years earlier does a bit better but I can’t guarantee that
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frankie always said he could beat Chavez, at the time myself and some others were a little dubious when he said it. When I saw him again some time later with the belt I told him ,,ya made a believer outta me.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Julio was 90 fights into his career, had become pampered and was partying.

    Prime Julio stops Frankie in 7 rounds of overwhelming offense.
     
  7. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Both things.
    Chavez was past prime and Randall had his number.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe at 135 pounds, anything over that and I'll take Frankie.
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good one!
     
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