Fury put an absolute clinic on Usyk rounds 1 to 7

Again I'm bringing it up because one judge had Wilder winning the first 4 rounds which is a bad scorecard which I'm sure you don't agree with.

3 of the judges in Canelo/Bivol fight had Canelo winning the first 4 rounds with Bivol needing to win the 12th round to stop the fight being a draw which are 3 bad scorecards from the judges despite them all having the same scorecard.

The point is there are countless examples of bad scoring from the judges I don't know why you keep quoting the judges scorecards when I'm sure in other fights you disagree with judges scoring.

The judge who had Fury winning 114-113 scored the last 2 rounds for Fury which is bad scoring. That means in the 2nd half of the fight he only had Usyk winning 3 rounds which is also not good scoring.

 

I would need to rewatch the full fight and score it again, but if my memory is correct, I scored rounds 8-12 all usyk. I scored 2 of 3 early rounds Usyk, then had Fury 4-7

So 7-5 usyk, but if you score 7 for usyk then it's 8-4

I know some will have scored all the rounds for usyk but 4-6, but I think that is maybe a little much? People see things differently due to who they like. I scored it 7-5, so realistically it was probably 8-4 usyk. You will always give the fighter you support the benefit of the doubt in close rounds

I just can't for the life of me call this a win for Fury or even a draw. He had some brilliant moments and looked in control at a stage, but it's a 12 round fight, not 6

Usyk did more
Landed more
Hurt Fury more
Scored a knockdown (could have been stopped)

It's difficult to have Fury as the winner. I just can't see it myself.

 

I had it very similar except I had the 7th for Usyk because I thought it was a good comeback round after Usyk had gone through a bad spell for a couple of rounds.

But I had Fury 4-2 up after 6 rounds I thought Usyk just about shaded the 7th round as i said above. Remember aswell if you're watching a fight live and a fighter has had a few bad rounds and then he comes back with his best round for awhile. You tend to score that round for the fighter that has changed the momentum in the fight well atleast I do anyway.

But overall i think Fury being ahead after 7 rounds is perfectly fine but not a shut out like the OP in this thread had. But then I felt Usyk took over from that point on especially when he broke Fury's nose and had better cardio down the stretch.

 

I scored round 12 to Usyk, but I recall Fury landing one big right hand that might have convinced some to award the frame to him on the basis of being the most memorable shot of the round.

 

Yeah no doubt the second half of the fight was mostly all Usyk

 

Some first rounds see both fighters just posturing and feeling each other out and sometimes amount to neither doing anything at all. I have no problem with those being scored 10/10. If neither did enough to deserve the round, why award it to either? 10/10 is a legit option and is there for the judges to use when the round is even.

 

Of course, within reason, judges should genuinely try to see or find an actual margin of difference between two fighters per round but, at the same time, they shouldn’t force their scoring based on negligible features purely for the sake of avoiding what might otherwise be reasonably calculated to be an even round.

 

The only reason some argued round 12 for Fury IMO. Fury looked much better than he had in 10 and 11 but I had that as a clear Usyk round.

 

he really did, he was awesome. I couldn't really give Usyk many rounds. Fury won the slow rounds and Usyk won the big ones. I can't see past Fury knocking out Usyk in rematch.

 

You must have been watching the first few rounds with your eyes closed, Usyk definitely won the first two.

 

I actually got him winning the first 4 quite comfortable. What did Fury did exactly in Round 4. People gives Fury automatically the middle Rounds, claiming Round 4 was dominant for Fury, when the only dominant Rounds were 5 and 6.
In Round 4, Usyk outlanded him, and landed huge flurries when Fury was on the ropes into Fury bodies and then landed clean to the head when Fury was on the rope again.
Usyk clearly landed the better shots.
First 3 rounds you can't even have a case for Fury. Round 4 you may have, but based on judging criteria, Usyk won every single one, Total Punches, Impactful one, Effective Aggression, Ring Generalship, Defense.

Not a single criteria on which you can give Fury the close rounds, which are only real 4 and 7. 11 and 12 are clear, clear Usyk rounds, as it shown by the graph and everyone can see the work the both done, as the fight is free on youtube.
Round 11 and 12 are big Usyk Rounds. Fury landing 1 good shot in Round 12, while Usyk land 10s in that Round. Huge leaping Right Hook, plenty of Left Hand, another Right Hook, combination, nothing in that round for Fury outside of 1 good punch.

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As far as the ref. Corrupted pos. You cannot held to the ropes by any means in a fight, it's illegal. Yet Fury was constantly getting out of the corner, by holding to the ropes. Not a single warning for that.
Usyk was cut by a headclash, 2 rounds later, the ref decide to call the cut was made by a punch ....

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Not to mention the Round 9, how referee get into Usyk way TWICE, and then a third time before finishing Fury off. First 2 time was when Usyk was chasing Fury, and everyone can see it on the replay of that Round.
Not to mention he than give him not a standing 8, but a 20 count. The count somehow also stopped for 2-3 seconds, and resumed from 3 to 4 ....
Absolutely pathetic attempt.
Fury was smashed, and his fans was waiting for me to get ban, so they can start making stupid lies thread with inaccurate s****, and use Compubox(that even this shows Usyk dominance) in 2024, where we have AI for punch stats and measurement of power shots, aggression, etc.

Compubox is me and Adam counting for who we think landed a punch or not. Also a right hand landed barely, aka 5% is still counted as Power punch, no matter if it's actual power punch or just the back hand .... Outdated highly inaccurate system that people trying to bring, for their agenda. But even by Compubox your hero lost by a good 8 rounds.

 

Fury put a clinic on how not to fight in rounds 1 & 2 if you want to actually win the rounds then put a clinic on in complacency in round 10. Not his best performance by a long shot, yet there were moments on brilliance from him. Same for Usyk really, It was the things you can't teach that made Usyk rise above after a tough mid fight and the lifestyle karma catching up to Fury that made him falter. As god wills it.

 

I'm always a fair man. I think the referee helped him as much as he can to stay in the fight, and the fight could have ended earlier. They literally tried to shifted Dubois in there.
There was low blow, but how did only for AJ did low blows get such a strong warnings? Same for the early head charges? Not that Dubois ain't trying his dirty tactic, but referee clearly was helping AJ that fight.

Other than that, either idiotic style changes, which you can see in Wallin, Ngannou fight as well, as AJ started to keep his left hand lower, to bring variety to the jab, but he become very open.

Something i notice, and you should have notice as well, if you put behind your hate for me and AJ aside is that AJ hands were low, not cause this was amateur mistakes, but he was doing it to gain momentum to his punches. He has done that since joining Ben Davison.
As i have been in a lot of Gym and sees a lot of trainers, a lot of them in the Kickboxing especially was telling us to bring our hands down to get momentum for the High Kick(Mawashi Geri).
What i mean by that:

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But you have to be smart to know when to go all in.
AJ was just plain and simple stupid. But this wasn't amateurish mistake, this is his new style and way to fight, which is terrible. But he f**** up his career trying to look good. He clearly also have some ego problems and pay way too much attention to what people say.

Anyway this ain't AJ thread. But this is my 2 cent. He may win the rematch if he comes with new approach, but in my book he doesn't deserve that rematch, and this is what is killing Boxing. He was smashed and that rematch is a terrible representation.
Anyway i come to give some deluded guys a stop, and just post the AI stats for this and Bivol - Beterbiev, won't be staying on here.
So good luck buddy.