Who won: Artur Beterbiev or Dmitry Bivol

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, Oct 12, 2024.


Who won

  1. Artur Beterbiev

    146 vote(s)
    37.4%
  2. Dmitry Bivol

    167 vote(s)
    42.8%
  3. Draw

    77 vote(s)
    19.7%
  1. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For what it's worth
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had it 115-113 Beterbiev but the fight could have gone either way. The aggeessor got the nod.
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    This running **** is nonsense. He was landing almost 4 to 1 on AB and controlled the pace. Being the aggressor is useless when you're not breaking the fighter down.
     
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  4. IvanaMariana

    IvanaMariana New Member banned Full Member

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    Bivol, and he was robbed:
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    Just for example, Impactful Punches on AI scoring criteria are 16x. more worth than regular ones.
    Bivol landed more than double impactful punches, which are clean, effective, hard shots.
     
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  5. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    Yeah, was listening to Mannix podcast and Sergio Mora was saying much the same, that a fighter who mostly relies on blocking and partying as defence still gets marked up and risks losing rounds simply because it doesn't look as effective defensively as dodging punches.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    You know what I love about this fight, it's done something that no other fight has done in recent history, it has actually got people having honest discussions about boxing.

    There are no fanboys for either guy, no haters neither, yet it was the biggest fight in boxing, people are actually arguing about what they've seen not what they wanted to see.

    Usually huge fights have clear a side fighters and have fans arguing for their boy, this isn't that.

    This has been a huge success for actual boxing.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yes, I'm well aware. Check the RBR for clarification, I don't feel like going through it again.
     
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  8. peter_uk

    peter_uk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had it 115-113 Beterbiev, or 114-114 if a close round seven swinged to Bivol. I also think Bivol had a case for round 5, so 115-113 Bivol is justifiable too.
     
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  9. Gambino

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    I'm not mad at the decision but I didn't think he won 8-4.
     
  10. IvanaMariana

    IvanaMariana New Member banned Full Member

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    Bivol 8-4, 7-5 at worst. Wasn't even that close as people trying it to make. Blocked punches are not landing. Beterbiev fans start sounding like Canelo fans on here lol.
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  11. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes Bivol blocked a lot of shots. He also partially blocked a lot too, they did land just not clean.

    Beterbiev doesn't load up or throw wide looping punches but you could see the effect he had when he did land. I think that's why people aren't giving his shots the respect they deserve.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    So 114-114 not 115-113.
     
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  13. Moe Balbaghe

    Moe Balbaghe New Member Full Member

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    Completely unbiased towards either guy. I scored it 115-113 to Beterbiev. They both landed roughly the same amount of punches, but Beterbiev was the aggressor, came forward and looked to be the man in charge there. I'm not mad about Bivol winning by the same score, or a draw but to have it any wider either way is way off imo

    Bivol didn't run all night and Beterbiev didn't hit gloves all night. Both men fought their fight and I felt Bivol did a good job of landing flurries off the back foot, and Beterbiev did a good job of landing shots that partially hit gloves but also hit the man, and those were troubling Bivol enough to push him back

    Let's run it back and see what happens, definitely a disputed undisputed fight!
     
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  14. IvanaMariana

    IvanaMariana New Member banned Full Member

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    Bivol just like Usyk clearly won that fight, but was robbed. At least Usyk wasn't, but they tried hard.

    Beterbiev fans trying to dismantle the stats tell you the whole story.
    Just Fury ignoring the AI stats, and how Usyk destroyed him.
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  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I agree, but casuals probably didn't see the subtleties of the match...it wasn't a slugfest.
     
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