Beterbiev & Bivol in 175lb ATG 50

What's the criteria?

Resume in fights contested at 175lbs?

Resume in fights where the fighter weighed no more than 175lbs regardless of their opponents weight?

Resume in all career fights, at all weights, for fighters who weighed 175lbs or less at one point in their career?

Predicted outcomes in fantasy fights contested at 175lbs?

Something else?

 

No problem.

You must rate Patterson at 175lbs extremely highly H2H, as he beat no one of significance whilst he weighed 175lbs or under.

Other than that I don't really have any observations as our criteria differs too much.

My rankings are based on resume, I.e. only on fights that happened, not on what I think would happen in fights that didn't happen, I'd find that particularly troublesome with fighters from vastly different eras.

I also only consider fights contested in the weight divison being rated.

 

Way too far down the list.

 

Just looking at that list, Moorer, Toney and Patterson have almost no resume at 175 so I don't know why they're so high. Conteh is over guys who he should be below.

I don't think Beterbiev would lose to many other light heavyweights. If you're going off resume, Galinez would be pretty close. I'm also going to assume that Beterbiev was a little bit better a few years ago and that Bivol might not need to be the next guy on the list fight after him.

 

No problem, from a H2H fantasy fight perspective, I know where you're coming from.

 

I posted my own attempt @ a top 25 LHWs here. Admittedly, I overlooked Jack Dillon when I made this.

1. Charles
2. Langford
3. Moore
4. Spinks
5. Tunney
6. Foster
7. Conn
8. Greb
9. Loughran
10. Fitz
11. Bivins
12. H. Johnson
13. Norfolk
14. RJJ
15. Qawi
16. Saad
17. Delaney
18. Galindez
19. Gibbons
20. Burns

Despite what Beter has accomplished by unifying the titles, I still think his legacy suffers in comparison w/ other great LHWs due to his sparse resume & number of fights, plus the fact that arguably his only fight vs. a truly great LHW ended indecisively. Having said that, I could see him squeezing into the bottom of my top 20, or at worst, being just outside of it.

 

In terms of H2H, both Bivol and Beterbiev should be in the top 10 maybe even Top 5. Name me one boxer that would do as good as Beterbiev did, at 39 years of age against Bivol. Maybe Archie Moore?

 

Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr
Mathew Saad Muhammad
Qawi

No guarantees of course, but 175 is a deep division with some true ATG talents!

 

Beterbiev is the best LHW since the RJJ Dariusz era. Another ATG crowned last night.

 

I think they gifted the win to Beterbiev to honor him, since he's in the end of his career.

In the rematch, they will make the fair decision and give the undisputed title to the rightful owner: Bivol.

After the rematch, Beterbiev will probably retire.

 

I did not see any sign of Bet slowing down stop mentioning the age factor he probably got 2 0 3 more fights.