do you consider devin haney undefeated

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is he undefeated

  1. yes hes undefeated

    9 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. no he has 1 loss

    25 vote(s)
    29.8%
  3. 2 losses

    43 vote(s)
    51.2%
  4. 3+ losses

    7 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right! the dude literally works with a person who made designer PED's and we are to believe he is not cheating?
     
  2. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've tried to explain this to folks. No one cares. Boxing is so corrupt you have people defending Victor Conte.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He wasn't even undefeated going into the Garcia fight.
     
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  4. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was. A fighter's record is a matter of fact. Whether he *should have been* undefeated obviously is up for discussion and most people would say no, but in fact he was undefeated.

    The distinction in the Ryan fight is that he lost, but with an asterisk. So it's kind of a tricky question.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he lost to Loma clearly and Garcia bullied the weight bully. The test findings of Garcia was so minimal it wouldn't if made that much of difference, and Haney conplaining about weight is laughable when he's bigger than a prime Marvin Hagler fighting against fighters he's 2 or 3 weightclasses bigger than.
     
  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I pretty much always go by real life. Haney is 31-0 with one no decision.
     
  7. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    5 people think he is undefeated :lol:
     
  8. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    As much as I enjoyed the fight, Garcia came in 3 pounds over the weight limit and got done for an illegal substance, of course the official result should be thrown out and be rendered obsolete.

    In saying that, I do think the drug testing process is open to corruption from rogue chemists.
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he's very lucky that he doesn't have 2 official losses.

    That official "0" will be gone in the next 2 years though..............
     
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  10. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have no idea, it's such a weird situation.

    I'm one of the few who scored Loma Haney a legitimate draw, I would really have to squeeze in a round to give Loma the full win. Many people consider it an ass-whooping but I just saw Loma having great success in the mid-rounds, which was more visually appealing than Devin's success earlier on in the fight.

    Garcia should probably be banned for PEDs, but I just find that loss hilarious. The fighters, the buildup, the fight, there's no way I can take any part of that situation seriously :lol:
     
  11. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, in the same way I consider OJ Simpson innocent
     
  12. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Would you mind elaborating on that comparison?
     
  13. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Devin Haney has never lost a boxing match just like OJ Simpson has never killed anybody....
     
  14. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Yeah but Garcia tested positively to an illegal substance which is banned under boxing regulations.

    How is that comparable to OJ Simpson not killing anybody?
     
  15. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In all seriousness mate you can take Ryan Garcia testing positive for miniscule amounts of Ostarine to mean whatever you want it to mean. If you think it caused Devin Haney to be be rocked and knocked down multiple times, in comparison to Devin Haney winning the fight vs a clean Ryan Garcia, then all the power to you. Personally I don't know if Ryan Garcia intended to cheat in the run up to the fight with Haney, but what I do know is the miniscule amount of Ostarine he popped for wouldn't have made an iota of difference in the actual fight.