The Referee For Usyk Fury Needs To Be Carefully Selected

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was surprised to see that the ref for the first fight was an American. Because he refereed like an Englishman.

    We all remember round 9. Usyk smashes Fury with a haymaker left hand. And it badly rocked Fury. Then Usyk proceeds to beat him from pillar to post for the next minute of the round. Finally, Fury has nothing left. He staggers into the corner helplessly and unable to defend himself. Usyk then hops forward preparing to DESTROY Fury. For some reason the referee inexcusably steps in between the 2 men and gives Fury a count. For what?

    The referee got squeamish. Because in the next few seconds Usyk was about to decapitate Fury and send Fury to the hospital. If the ref is afraid for Fury's physical well being then he needs to stop the fight. If Fury's life is in danger then stop the fight. Otherwise let Usyk annihilate him. He robbed Usyk of the stoppage victory. Fury then recovered after the bell.

    The referee must not allow this to happen in the rematch. Let the fighters determine the outcome of the fight. I personally would have stopped the fight and awarded Usyk the stoppage victory. But if you're not going to do that then let Usyk decapitate him.
     
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  2. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover New Member Full Member

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    '' For some reason the referee inexcusably steps in between the 2 men and gives Fury a count. For what? ''

    You already gave the answer : Usyk proceeds to beat him from pillar to post for the next minute of the round. Finally, Fury has nothing left. He staggers into the corner helplessly and unable to defend himself.

    What do you want, people die ? maybe stop watching boxing and go check something else where ppl beat each other to death.

    ''I was surprised to see that the ref for the first fight was an American. Because he refereed like an Englishman.''

    :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
     
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  3. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was thinking Usyk would TKO Fury in the later rounds, since he don't have enough stamina and will fold with pressure.

    in the rematch, Usyk will finish him and move on to bigger challenges.

    P.S.
    Saudis love Usyk more than Fury for some reason.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No I don't want Fury to die. The proper decision there would be to stop the fight and award the Usyk the victory. You don't give Fury a count because he's about to die.
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Referee was fine in the first fight. Did his job perfectly fine without complaint from a single person till Usyk didn't get a KO you all desperately wanted. Stay mad.

    He stepped in when the ropes held Fury up and it was at round end. Nothing more to it.

    Maybe cry that Fury didn't go down from a barrage of clean punches still rolling and defending despite being out on his feet only wilting after 20 seconds of an assault where Usyk couldn't get him to go down whereby it was then the end of the round. A missed opportunity. If the round hadnt ended Usyk would have his KO but it did end and that's what history will remember.

    The level of butthurt when Fury wins the rematch is palpable. Maybe put respect on both mens names instead of acting like a twink fanboy something I know a lot about.
     
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  6. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Fury fell into the ropes, that's a knockdown according to the rules. That's why the ref stepped in but you probably know that already.

    Actually the ref should've given Fury a count after the first big left hand already because he fell into the ropes after that one as well.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Mark Nelson has always been a solid referee, and as much as I would like to have seen Usyk score a 9th round knockout, and I am pissed that he didn't, considering that's what I predicted, I don't think his call was all that egregious. If the ropes hold you up that can be counted as a knockdown, clearly Tyson Fury was being held up by the ropes when he went sailing into them. I'd have preferred he wave It off, but I didn't get any intentional corruption off of that call.
     
  8. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk got in a good shot but there was no no pillar to post. I swear fanboys.
    Fury will more than likely win the rematch. Prepare yourself, you don't want
    to cry in front of your friends.
    Gawd knows what will happen in the third bout but both will retire afterward
    with huge riches bulging in their pockets. So there's that.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No that was the definition of a pillar to post beating, and Tyson Fury was hurt worse at the end of the 9th than he's ever been hurt against Wilder or anyone else who's dropped him in the past. Keep coping and deluding yourself.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I was rooting for Usyk and I don't see the controversy with the refs performance in the first fight. Usyk laid it on Fury and dropped him at the end of the round(ropes held him up that's a knockdown) a trigger happy ref may have waved it off sooner but that's not happened thankfully. The fight reached it's natural conclusion and the right man won. Nothing to complain about.
     
  11. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It’s not egregious because Fury made it to the 12th and didn’t look unwell after that, period.

    As others have said, if anything, he ~could~ have scored a knockdown when Fury stumbled into the ropes…

    But nothing he did was actually poor refereeing, being a ref is by nature based around making judgement calls, and with a guy like Fury who we’ve seen damn near raise from the dead (I hear the crappy Altered Beast intro voiceover in my head every time I see it), in a fight of that magnitude, it all seems fairly reasonable.

    I’ve never heard anyone say Diego Corralles or Jose Luis Castillo should have been stopped or counted out the second their backs hit the ropes and they got bobble headed by the other - something that happened several times to both men….

    @UnleashtheFURY succinctly and well put!

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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't know if I agree. Fury was held up by the ropes 3 times that round. Only when it was obvious that Fury was absolutely spent did the ref give Fury a count. If you didn't give a count the first 2 times then why give a count on the 3rd time?

    This is sport. A very violent sport true, but a sport. The idea is to stop to the fight before 1 guy beats the other into a coma. The ref should have awarded Usyk a stoppage victory if he wasn't going to let Usyk continue to hit Fury. A win is a win, but a stoppage win is more satisfying.
     
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  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hardly think they are going to pull a name out of a hat.
     
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  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ben, you seem to agree with tinman on what happened.

    You say: "You already gave the answer."
    From that, you feel his description of round 9 was accurate.

    And what was that answer ?

    "Finally, Fury has nothing left. He staggers into the corner helplessly and unable to defend himself."

    When a fighter is unable to defend himself, the ref's job is to STOP THE FIGHT.

    He didn't do that, and thus, Usyk had to beat Fury twice....Once by TKO and once more on points.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you don't want the referee to call knockdowns?