which heavyweight record is harder to break

Youngest because you have to be basically a 1 in a billion genetic freak to be good enough to be a world champion before the age of 20, which Mike was - it's extremely rare to be essentially a world-beating teenager because you're going up against men who have had years of pro experience

Oldest obviously is very hard too but it's theoretically a fair bit easier, someone like Wlad or Zhilei Zhang (or even Luis Ortiz) could conceivably do it, as long as they hadn't had a long career of brutal wars before age 45. Especially with the 4 belt era: in 5 years if there's a weak title holder, I really think Zhang could knock them out with his abnormal power and break the record.

 

I'd say the Foreman one.
Tyson's record is winning of a belt at a very young age.
With the current number of alphabet belts and that some will be up for grabs vacant, there's a good possibility it will happen in the near future.

Foreman's though was the actual Ring and lineal multi belt championship. Becoming "the man" at an old age.
You'd have to be a special fighter and get into the position at that advanced age.
More challenging imo.

Still, people staying fit for much longer nowadays probably makes sure that one will fall eventually too.

 

Floyd Patterson lineal HW champion 21 years 331 days

 

Considering some of the schlubs who have been gifted "World Titles" lately (ie: Manuel Charr) both records have never been easier to break. If the requirement was to beat the best fighter at that weight, both records would be very difficult to break.

 

Both are great achievements but I have to go with Tyson,most Heavyweights aren’t even pro’s at the age Tyson was Champion . Tyson as well as being the youngest Heavyweight champion was also the first Heavyweight to hold the WBA WBC and IBF belts at the same time,he was the first Heavyweight ever to win them in succession,he then added the lineal title to his accomplishments with his win over Spinks. Undisputed Champion and Lineal title holder before he was 22 year old !

 

I think Foremans is more impressive considering he achieved it during one of the greatest heavyweight eras of all time. The 80s were full of bums. Ali, at 40 years of age, probably in the early stages of Parkinsons and with Thyroid issues after a brutal career still went the distance with Berbick.

 

I would have gone with older, if Turki hadn’t popped up on the scene, but now that he’s here I can see fighters getting opportunities earlier in their careers.
There’s no one currently that looks like they could break either record, ituma I haven’t seen enough of him really, but I can’t see the belts getting scattered wide enough or him taking the right fights fast enough to get ranked to get a shot in the next year to equal or better Iron Mike.
Both are unlikely but it’s more likely that luck and hype might give a young fighter a shot, but the longevity, talent and stamina required to win a title at 45 makes it more difficult for me.

 

Youngest is only harder because the promoters protect the prospects so much. In other sports, the players around 20 are 'green' but if they are good they can beat seasoned top players on any given day/night. They'll also lose to experienced guys they'll one day surpass. But all you need is that championship fight to go right.

Look at Nadal/Federer/Djokovic, who were beating top players at 17/18 and winning major events, reaching no.1 around 20. In fact Nadal had top wins at 15/16. They might lack a bit of strength but if they are naturally big they are not much different to what they'll end up.

The thing is the young ones are more fearless and that can make them more dangerous.

But that is in sports where you are allowed to lose and don't have to protect your '0' fifteen times before you fight a challenge at 27 years old, which is not young athletically.

I could easily see someone like Usyk or Fury beating certain HW champions at 18/19 if they put them in with them. Others they'd probably lose to. But what if they had to fight Parker or Ruiz? And they obviously beat Charles Martin and so on. People will point to Fury and McDerm around that age, but that's the thing, at this age they CAN struggle with journeyman or lose, but on a good night they can cause an upset.

 

I think youngest is harder. You really only got a 1 maybe 1 1/2 year window realistically. Most guys don’t fill out their frame until after their teenage years.

45 - 50 is like a 5 year window. With todays sports nutrition and science more fighters fight until older age. Not to forget matchmaking that’s easier on the body.

 

Correct, Patterson beat Joe Lous’ record to become the youngest lineal champion, a record that still stands. Tyson didn’t become lineal until stopping Spinks when 22+.
So the question is does Moses supposes he can beat 21years 331 days?

 

Mike Tysons is harder imo. Considering modern day medicine I don't think it's as crazy to win the heavyweight title at 46

 

Tysons because a legend in their late 40s can get a shot more easily off of their name and guys might actually get the chance to break the record. Looking at Foreman who kept his belt over 3 years and Hopkins theres about another 5 years beyond the record before a brickwall. Maybe the champ is also old who knows.

In earlier eras breaking Tysons record was doable but in this current era where everyones got a manufactured record a prospect simply can't seperate themselves from the pack quick enough. HWs can remain undefeated into their 30s without getting a shot at a belt. Getting one as a teenager is quite unthinkable. Dubois got a shot right before his 26th birthday and got the interim title interim title before 24. When he was the age Tyson broke his record he was what.....7-0? Theres just too little time. And this is assuming the fighter is capable of beating the champ that early.

 

Tennis is different players were generally considered older in their late 20s with your 30s being like your 40s in the other sports. Nadal/Federer/Djokovic shattered the age scale of that sport. They were prodigys but tennis tournaments are full of teenagers.