The British Heavyweight title

You keep bringing up British heavyweights going through "tough" competition compared to other countries. I don't see the point of this thread. Are you trying to say they should have it easier ? The best of the best benefit from tough matchmaking, it's better for the fans and filters out the Lot. Any fighter that gets carefully matched always gets exposed eventually. Frazer Clarke would've got smashed anyway, he's a slow stiff

 

Do you see an Itauma v Fisher fight in the not too distant future Bailey?

 

The Americans claim all their best heavyweight athletes chose other sports such as Basketball, Ice Hockey or American Rugby. They think LeBron James would dominate boxing? He would get battered by John McDermott.

The British Heavyweight scene is clearly levels above other heavyweight scenes. And this argument that their heavyweights chose other sports over boxing can be made in Britain also. Just imagine Emile Heskey trained by Robert McCracken, or Duncan Ferguson trained by the McGuigans, or Freddie Flintoff trained by Adam Booth. British heavyweight athletes are in class of their own. And now Britain has a young Heavyweight in Tom Aspinall making major waves in the MMA world.

The biggest domestic fight the Americans could put together in the last 10 years was Wilder vs Dominic Brezeale. While Fabio Wardley vs David Adeleye was a greater level fight than that. And Wardley vs Adeleye wasn't even the biggest All British domestic match up. There is still:-

Whyte vs Chisora
Chisora vs Joyce
Joyce vs Dubois
Dubious vs Joshua
Joshua vs Whyte
Whyte vs Fury
Fury vs Chisora

The British scene produced all those great match ups, and many more while the best the Americans had to offer was Wilder vs Brezeale. Levels.

 

Yes, multiple people including me have already said it benefits the fighter, especially when said competition is just high domestic level. Rough match making is better in the grand scheme. Price would've been smashed eventually, and it would've been before he hit world level. I don't see anyone outside of Povetkin on his resume that would have beaten Wilder besides Povetkin/Chisora and that was at the end.

Even someone like Stiverne is better than Clarke

 

Here's a great example. Anderson just took a big step up against Bakole who smoked Yoka. Anderson lost, and we'll get to see how that Bakole fight makes or breaks Anderson. I think he's going to learn from that fight, improve his mistakes, use more footwork and come back stronger like Dubois

 

Jared Anderson started crying on camera which probably made other fighters look at him as a crybaby.

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Bakole who is from the tough jungles of Africa where such crying is not respected. The same Bakole who relocated to Scotland, Britain, where such crying is not tolerated, probably saw Jared Anderson's crying and thought what any other British man would think:.... what a crybaby.

Now crying is ok if it is kept between man and God. Or if an accomplished veteran sheds a few manly tears for the beatings he has dished out. Deontay Wilder earnt this right as he had inflicted enough pain to warrant such tears. But even his tears were laughed at by the people of Africa, Eurasia and Britain. Jared Anderson on the other hand, as a professional heavyweight boxer hasn't earned this right to cry on camera. Anderson's crying on camera will continue to give his opponents the psychological edge over him, thus Bakole was bound to smash him apart.

Best thing for Jared Anderson would be to relocate to a more rugged, a more tougher, a more masculine environment such as Kazakhstan, or The Congo, or England where such crybaby antics would be quickly shutdown. He will learn quickly to keep his tears between himself and God Almighty, not to be shared on camera with the rest of the world, unless he earns this right. Until then, upcoming British Heavyweights, the likes of Fabio Wardley, Moses Ituama, Fisher, Solomon Dacres and even David Adeleye would be looking at Jared Anderson as a crybaby. This would be the best move for Anderson to make as he does have the physical potential to go beyond his current level of a NABF champion and reach the higher level of a British heavyweight title contender.

 

The British got the Commonwealth title going on as well.

Between the British and the Commonwealth titles fighters at the Wardley/Clarke level got so much opportunity to make money fighting in the UK. That can only be a good thing.

 

Racist stereotyping at all?

 

This is any British fighters elevate quicker I'm the rankings and are generally more prepared.

Chisora, Whyte huge headliners despite never having a title.

Dubois more prepared for AJ than most thought possible.

Wardley already world ranked.

 

Clarke was never much cop. He was never world level as a professional. He was a team GB amateur automaton, never suited to professional boxing. The habits he learnt as an amateur meant he was never going to make it as a professional.

And such a level gets found out regardless at fringe world level even if he gets moved more slowly.

It’s better weed that type out earlier in the process otherwise time and money can be wasted on fighters who aren’t much cop.

 

Other countries simply don't have the depth of quality heavyweights the UK do.

 

Stiverne from the first Wilder fight KOs Price. If he doesn't Ortiz would. Artur Szpilka probably would've posed problems for Price but he was pretty chinny too