What Are Holyfields Chances Against Foreman (Ali Fight)?

Silly take, Bowe has been called a heavy handed fighter by anyone asked he was 235-240lbs and 6ft5 Evander warred with that guy at 205lbs for a whole 12 - Evander beat that guy up at 217lbs and the 3rd fight? Both those guys had there reasons for not being there, Evander had hepatitis ffs and that’s been agreed on by multiple people in the game so I’ll pass him, Old Foreman wobbled him a little bit what’s wrong with that? He lasted 12 and didn’t look remotely in trouble lol Old Foreman also weighed nearly 40lbs more (EH was also 208lbs in the bout) Evander also had him reeling around the ring? So did Ali, Young… A young 70s Foreman is going to be getting both barrels from a 218lbs (likely) PED blasting Holyfield whilst GF will enjoy being the “little guy” in the ring… at all ranges he’s the worse boxer he wasn’t an inside fighter, he might’ve been good with his jab but he only knew how to throw that away by being too aggressive (he might look good going towards Holyfield but once they start rumbling inside…) this fight is all Holyfield.

 

I think Big George was a force of nature and on that mushy canvas with loose ropes, Holyfield isn’t going to be able to stand up to him long enough to wear George down.

In a normal ring, if he’s disciplined then I could see Holy turning the trick. But George is still a monster.

 

Genuinely feel EV smashes George here. Discipline v indiscipline, simple. Vander is compact in the hole, has the chin from hell at his best and rattles George with short, sharp punches from within his crude swings. This is a head on the chest beat down. Evander and its not even close....

 

He's not?

 

Holy hell.

 

They also don't take into account, Ali's masterclass in mind games that helped him immensely in that fight.
Holyfield wouldn't torment an opponent into a blind rage. It wasn't who he was.

 

This thread should be titled, "What are Foreman's chances against Holyfield?" Slim and None.

 

Im not falling for your bait bud.

 

It might help to remember that nobody thought that Holyfield could beat Tyson.

 

Ali came out to stick and move. He saw in the first round it would be impossible in that ring with George’s ability to cut off the ring.

So he shifted and did the rope-a-dope — he laid on the ropes and let George take aim and launch nuclear missiles and withstood him. Some of the body shots alone would have caved most people in half. Ken Norton and anyone else who got trapped on the ropes with Foreman were pulverized. Ali had the mental fortitude to weather it.

Furthermore, he had the mental toughness and mental edge. He literally at some point said something like, ‘C’mon, they told me you could hit hard. Don’t disappoint me, George.’ He had a pair the size of bowling balls to taunt one of the greatest punchers of all time and say, ‘That all you got? Show me again how hard you hit.’

I don’t see Evander or anyone else being able to lay on the ropes and let George go bombs-away and be standing at the end to tell about it.

 

It wasn't the climate in Zaire that hurt George, it was the steady stream of hookers that he enjoyed during the postponement weeks due to Ali's cut. We all acknowledge that sex robs strength from one's legs.

 

I think Holyfield is as determined as any fighter I’ve seen. I put him in a class with Joe Frazier that way.

The singular focus of returning to battle after Tyson bit off one of his ears is a testament to his toughness and determination to block everything out to win.

But in that particular ring with loose ropes and a padded mattress of a canvas, I don’t think he’s physically cable of laying on the ropes and letting George tee off like he’s swinging a bat in batting practice and absolutely absorb that degree of punishment to tire Foreman out.

And Ali’s mental game had a lot to do with that. He goaded George into huffing and puffing until he couldn’t blow the house down. I just don’t think Evander is equipped — his instinct at some point after maybe covering and slipping and catching a few of those punches would be to unload and fight Foreman off him … and in that situation I don’t see him being able to do it.

More likely, he gets caught by a haymaker, and not braced for it, while he’s launching his own counter-assault.

None of us know, of course, but that’s how I see it.

Put him in a regular ring with ropes and normal padding and I could see a focused Bowe II type performance (again, which guy let himself get distracted by fan man and which stayed mentally engaged?) where he pulls it off.

 

It really shouldn't. The post asks a question defined by very specific parameters. What are Holyfield's chances against the Zaire Foreman. That was a Foreman who simply flat out busted himself, perhaps the most bestable version of young Foreman there is. He was rattled before he went into the ring and fought like a man possessed, single minded in his pursuit of revenge for Ali's perceived insults and lack of respect. I don't think that Foreman knocks out Evander, certainly not before 8 when he was spent, exhausted, and as Ali quipped in their fight, this ain't no time to be tired. Evander's condition and discipline win the fight, Foreman's lack of both loses it.

Personally, I think Evander beats any version of George but I really rate him head to head, but the above is my feeling about THAT version of Foreman.

 

Considering how Holyfield liked to stay in the inside,unlike Ali who just outgrappled hsi opponent and punch them to death,it would be a hard fight for Evan Fields,but his headbutts makes wonders.

 

Considering George always ended up inside but couldn’t really fight there I’d say it’s in EH’s favour.