Max Baer in the 1970s

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  1. FrankinDallas

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    Just watched Baer-Braddock. Baer weighed 209. He looked really poor to me. Braddock, who let's be honest, was a journey man level tough guy, and he hit Max at will. Chin, body, head wherever and whenever he wanted to hit Max.

    Baer was slow of foot and hands. Zero defense and of course looked like he would rather have been in a brothel.

    I don't think Max could survive top ten HW's from the 60's onwards. Even Floyd Patterson would toy with him, and that's as bad as it gets.
     
  2. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everything you say here of Baer & Braddock could be used to describe Tyson & Douglas, to be fair.
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You have poo pooed Max Baer, Tony Galento, Rex Layne, Jim Braddock and Billy Miske off the top of my head.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    When I see you favor Patterson over someone, they really must’ve been terrible. :lol:
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Baer at his best would be a dangerous assignment for Patterson. Max was bigger, better and more powerful than Johannson when he really showed up to fight.
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Bigger and more powerful sure, better hell no.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I don't know. When Baer was "on" he seemed better than Ingo
     
  8. Pedro_El_Chef

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    So one off performance erases wins over Carnera, Schmeling, Schaaf, Levinsky, Farr, Comiskey and Galento.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    lol show me one bout where he displayed good defensive skills, and any semblance of a jab.

    Even in one of the bouts touted here as one of his best against Galento, we can plainly see him duck INTO punches from a guy half a foot shorter than him.... punches that he wouldn't have been hit by otherwise. Yeah I'm sure someone here will explain in depth how that was actually a genius technique lost to the ages.
     
  10. FrankinDallas

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    Yeah, a real Murderers Row right there.

    Farr, I grant you, was a good boxer. As was Schmeling who had his one day in the sun vs Louis. Won his belt on a DQ.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Oh come on! You're really telling me you wouldn't be shaking in your boots standing across the ring from this?
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  12. FrankinDallas

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    I kind of blanked out for a minute.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Despite that clip, Galento was like Tua. 225 pounds of pure power with a left hook that could dent steel and a cast iron chin. I oftentimes think Galento vs Tua might be a draw or a narrow SD win for either fighter if they fought in their respective primes.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

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    OK I think we're done here.
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Beating Louis was no small feat. And Schmeling didn't just beat Louis, he knocked him out. It wasn't like a close 15 round split Decision win that could have gone the other way.