The best heavyweight to never hold a title

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  1. Dubblechin

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    He held the WBA "regular" belt. Do you consider Trevor Bryan a champion? Manuel Charr? Same belt.
     
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    He also won an interim belt for beating Whyte.
     
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    WBC "Interim" Champ for a couple months before getting wasted.

    Is that a real title?

    Povetkin was never a champion. Neither was Dillian Whyte. Neither was Charr. Neither was Bryan.

    If they were, then Luis Ortiz was a two-time heavyweight champion, too.

    Ortiz was the WBA "Interim" Champ TWICE.
     
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    Its certainly more real than the regular belt. The 4 major bodies have only had like 9 or 10 interim champs put together.

    Ortiz was only the WBA Interim Champ once. The first one officially never happened because it was a NC. Even if it counted I acknowledge Ortiz as champ for beating Jennings not before that.

    Interim belts are standard alphabet belts. Because Fury got his belts stripped and Martin won the IBF Ortiz actually had a case for being best champ when he held the WBA interim belt.
     
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    Charr and Bryan no. Povetkin and Whyte yes.

    Ortiz is a one time WBA interim champ.
     
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    Ortiz won two WBA interim titles. He lost his first one two months after the fight when his drug results came back.

    REGARDLESS, he was never a heavyweight champion. Neither was Povetkin. Neither was Whyte. Neither was Bryan. Neither was Charr.

    Who is the heavyweight champion right now? Is Joseph Parker?

    **** no.
     
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    Parker is not "the" HW champ anymore than any other alphabet champ. I'm saying he is "a" alphabet champ. I'm not even saying I consider Parker titles to be real but if I don't its not cause its a interim title.
     
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    I don't consider anyone apart from The Champion as a champion tbh.

    But he did get introduced as heavyweight champion of the world when he fought.
     
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    There are a couple of names already mentioned that I think are very good, but to throw out a guy not much remembered, Larry Gaines, who has victories over Schmeling, Carnera and Godfrey.