Who is the most overrated boxer on ESB?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JonOli, Aug 11, 2008.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Excuse me?

    Why would that be a bias point of view?
     
  2. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because you offer no comparison in return.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm to tired to ask to many questions, but I put forward all the reason as to why I believe Manny Pacquiao is exclusively overrated at ESB.

    I felt he lost twice to Marquez, and I don't believe he defeated a 100% Morales or a 100% Barrera. I still give him credit, and he deserves to be amongst the best fighters in the sport, but not on top of the list. It is my personal feeling, and there are other overrated fighters like Kelly Pavlik, who everybody seems to believe will knockout Hopkins, but he isn't overrated to the extent of Manny.

    I feel I have done everything in my power to make a case for Manny being an overrated fighter.
     
  4. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm tired too (posting from denmark and its 3.30am here). but if you want to pull the pacman down like that there must be someone you hold in higher esteem.

    the point being, if you want to label a top class fighter like pacquiao then always be prepared to make a comparison relative to the one you're critital of.

    it's healthy because it gives a platform for people who disagree wth you to counter you - and anyone who believes in their point of view will do that IMO.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I can't fully admit to knowing what you're talking about.

    Juan Manuel Marquez, in my humble opinion, holds two victories over Manny Pacquiao. Now, if I truely believe that to be the case, I would think Juan was the superior fighter, but despite this, the Boxing Community has Manny as the #1 guy in any weight class. On that basis alone, it isn't surprising that I find him overrated.

    There are many other factors. Manny Pacquiao is being mentioned fighting 147lv fighters exclusively at ESB, and I feel this to be ludicrious. In order for these kind of comments to be made, people must be holding Pacquiao in such a high regard that they feel he is capable of fighting at 147. I don't believe he is, and therefore on that basis I feel "Manny Pacquao is being overrated".

    Likewise, it has often to be stated on ESB by members that even if Barrera was in a prime state, he would still lose against Manny Pacquiao and by knockout. I am of a different opinion, because there was no quit in the fighter that fought Morales the first time, and he was getting hit with hard shots. I feel that version of Marco gives Manny all he can handle, and probably wins by knockout. Just my personal opinion, but in the belief that Manny Pacquiao beats prime Barrera, I feel that would make Manny "overrated".

    I don't feel it is to complicated to comprehend. I don't feel Manny should be #1 P4P, I don't feel he beat Marquez, and I don't think he can be competitive at 147lb. A considerable portion of ESB disagrees with me on all of those points, and therefore I feel Manny is overrated on ESB. Just simple stuff.
     
  6. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    You think that Calzaghe is the 2nd best in the last 2.5 years, and yet you find him overrated?
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The beat down of the mighty Gary Locket did seem to send Pavliks currency though the roof.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe! Not in terms of his ability and skill b/c there is no denying that, but his overall accomplishments and where he stands based upon those accomplishments are highly over exaggerated.
     
  9. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    lolz:lol: ...good thinkin'..
     
  10. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think prime Tyson gives anyone a tough time H2H.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No.

    I have him second best of the last 2.5 years,

    and about fifth in the last 25 years.
     
  12. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    The Hayematrix :yep :yep :yep
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Mr. Calzaghe
    thats about right
     
  14. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kermit "I Beat Nobody Yet" Cintron
     
  15. tryggve

    tryggve New Member Full Member

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    Toney somehow people still think he is what he was at middleweight ages ago.