Michael Gerard Tyson vs. Jacob Joseph Paul

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"Kid Dynamite" or "Problem Child"?

Poll closed Nov 15, 2024.
  1. Tyson on points

    5.1%
  2. Tyson by stoppage

    30.9%
  3. Draw

    12.0%
  4. Paul on points

    18.3%
  5. Paul by stoppage

    33.7%
  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Good breakdown of how much worse Tyson looked at 58 when he fought Paul compared to when he was 54 and fought Roy Jones Jr and was moving much better.

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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think there is a need to make excuses, here. With age comes injuries. All the same package, and if he does it again, there will be an "injury" next time.
     
  3. Walcott

    Walcott Active Member Full Member

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    Either, either. But Mike looked a decade older than he did against Jones.
     
  4. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    The argument in the video, which I do agree with, is that Mike's body has still not recovered from the ulcer that almost killed him a few months back. That is why he looked more than a decade older from just the fight 4 years ago.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    his problem is neurological. he has lost synapses in his nervous system, caused by age and more by punishment to the brain throughout his life. his body is communicating within itself at a much slower speed. that causes delayed reactions, loss of balance, and it makes him more vulnerable to future trauma.
     
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  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Who cares no 60 year old male on the planet is beating a 27 year old prime male.

    If Jake was a nasty piece of work he could have seriously hurt old man Mike but as I said this fight was really only about seeing where Jake's moral barometer lies and yes he's not a POS like he's made out to be.

    Not sure what Mike got out of it....is $17m worth it? is he broke?
     
  7. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The answer is a resounding YES.
    Injury & poor recovery is all part of the aging process - even with unlimited meds & juice
    Their is a law of diminishing returns
    The 27 years old Fake Jaul is also, juiced to the gills can’t compete with youth at that disparity of age is too great to overcome.

    At least Jake Paul granted him mercy & carried him as opposed to becoming the ultimate most hated Clout chasing Troll
    & Koing the beloved Grandpa.
     
  8. UFC2020

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    Who were the doctors who allowed him to fight? They should be charged with criminal negligence
     
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  9. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Apparently the Texas fight commission plays it very fast and lose with medicals and drug testing.
     
  10. TFP

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    most 60 yr old ex boxers would kill most prime aged average Joes, but Paul is a pretty ok club fighter, that's a long way above average Joe territory.
     
  11. bandeedo

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    these are real punches.
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  12. MixedMartialLaw

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    Jack Dempsey famously beat off two muggers at 75. The reason I do believe that story, is most street punks and criminals can't fight for **** and get spooked by any victim who actually has any ability to fight back. That's why they usually go after old ladies.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

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    It never will. At his age, everything takes a piece out of you for good.
     
  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    It’s particularly disturbing to see a fighter lose his once formidable resilience (naturally, due to age). Like Superman being stripped of a particular super power.

    Mike was stumbling from some very unremarkable punches but my God, in his prime, Mike could take some hellacious punches without stumbling, let alone tipping.

    Once the chin is gone, aside from other age related deteriorations, the age onset lack of chin also dictates how you fight. There is now an unfamiliar crystal to protect.

    Whatever he did do, Mike was far more defensively minded against Paul - and although brief, his head movement at 58 yo did see him dodge a few punches but he simply wasn’t throwing a lot punches himself otherwise.
     
  15. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    Age and injury didn't help. However, after the 2nd round, Tyson stopped charging at him and throwing. Yet, he had the energy to move his head and move around the ring. I believe he held back. Jake included. I refuse to believe for a minute that Tyson did not have enough in the tank to have pressured and thrown more than he did.