How do you rank Jimmy Young?

I think he stunk the joint out against a fat ,disinterested Ali,a disgraceful exhibition showing a shameful lack of desire,the title was there for the taking ,but he couldn't find it within himself to step up and take it .
Young didn't just stick his head out through the ropes,that's just BS,he deliberately put his whole upper body through them 4 times .Only one was called a kd,when in fact all should have been.He should have been dsq'd imo.
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He came to London in 1979 to face John L. Gardner in a 10-rounder at Wembley. Gardner was on a good run at the time and his team gambled on catching Jimmy on the slide after the man's heartbreaking defeat at the hands of Ken Norton and two subsequent losses to the unheralded Ossie Ocasio, but Young generally outboxed the rather plodding Gardner and then floored him in the last to take a merited decision.

 

I was at the fight, he out classed Gardner.

 

Ali was horrible that night but IMO he won that fight without any question. Punch count is not everything in scoring. If I were the referee, I would have disqualified Young when he stuck his head outside the ropes.

 

And it's only Ali denigrators that have been proclaiming to the heavens for 50 years that Young "won."

 

Top 10 of the 70s.
He cannot be in the Top 5 of the 70s (Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Norton).

 

But he wasn’t disqualified, the ref let him get away with it. And as far as Ali being fat and disinterested that’s on Ali. Punch for punch he did much better than Ali in that fight.

 

Nope I don’t denigrate Ali he’s either the number 1 or number 2 heavyweight for all times in my book. But I call it how I see it. Young whipped him

• The Associated Press had the fight 69-66 for Young.
• No. 1-ranked heavyweight contender Ken Norton scored a fifth-round TKO against Ron Stander on the undercard.
• Young landed 222 punches to Ali's 113. Young outlanded Ali 65-27 in jabs and 157-86 in power punches. The punch disparity highlighted the booing at the judges' decisions:<Ref>Bob Cannobio and Lee Groves, "Muhammad Ali: By The Numbers", 2018. See 30:37.</ref>
  • In the first round, Ali threw a total of 5 punches to Young's 74, and landed 0 punches to Young's 18. Two of the three judges scored the round even.<Ref>Bob Cannobio and Lee Groves, "Muhammad Ali: By The Numbers", 2018. See 30:57.</ref>
  • In the third round, Young threw 78 punches to Ali's 26, and landed 21 punches to Ali's 7. Two judges scored this round for Ali, and the third scored it even.<Ref>Bob Cannobio and Lee Groves, "Muhammad Ali: By The Numbers", 2018. See 31:22.</ref>
  • Despite these and other disparities, Ali was scored as the winner of all ten rounds going into the eleventh by one of the judges, and winner of all but one of the ten rounds by the other two.<Ref>Bob Cannobio and Lee Groves, "Muhammad Ali: By The Numbers", 2018. See 31:42.</ref>
  • According to CompuBox, Young outlanded Ali in all rounds but fourth and twelfth. In rounds 4, 12 and 13, difference in total punches landed was 1. Young also landed more power punches in eleven rounds out of fifteen.

 

We can agree to disagree.

Again, I think Ron Lyle is the single most overrated boxer discussed on this forum, but Jimmy Young is moving up on the outside.