Usyk/Fury 2 Face off

If it's not fact, it's an opinion. Nothing more.

Out of curiosity, if Fury shows up to the rematch dead serious and wins, would your opinion change?

 

The guy showboats almost every fight. Does he expect to need an excuse for every fight? Pull the other one, it's part of his make up.

 

No, again, it is a pretty good model to explain his inconsistent behavior and the fact that he tried to use his clowning as an excuse. But as you like. I don't intend to go back and forth about it.

 

Perhaps it was always his built-in excuse.

 

So do you think he thought he might lose to everyone he showboated against? Er no.

 

He is the one who says in boxing it only takes one shot.

 

A lot of unforeseen variables in fights change outcomes. Usyk broke Furys nose in the first fight and that changed the momentum of the fight in his favor. Usyk had the better gas tank and volume in the end. Rematch will not be much different.

 

In heavyweight that's true. You also didn't answer his question.

 

….or, when they get handed the script.

 

A lot of what we post is opinion, based on what we think is the most likely conclusion - it goes without saying - but there are some who feel the periodic need to expressly identify the other parties view as “opinion” merely because it opposes their own “opinion”.

 

Fury didn't like watching himself get hurt, seemed upset, which is understandable because that sequence lost him the fight.

People pretend Usyk would have just won anyway, but he didn't land big like that again, even when Fury was compromised for the remainder of the fight, so if Fury can avoid a shot like that, he can potentially get through another fight and put himself in a position to win.

Usyk was nervously lying about not being hurt by the uppercuts. Weirdly seems a bit more 'insecure' than Fury about the fight and unsettled overall, maybe worried that repeating his performance is probably harder than Fury repeating his. I think Usyk is actually more 'red lined' than Fury in this match up, due to the size difference.

Fury confirms accidentally what a terrible trainer he has by reminding everyone that his advantage is his agility and skill as a SHW, yet that's what his trainer eroded with the 'Kronk' nonsense and weight gain and 'big dog' tactics. I think Fury knows that, even though he stays with him. Even his brother was making comments along these lines after the Wilder trilogy, how much Fury was getting hit now and how he's not a KO artist. There were definitely some talks at the BBQ when Sugar Hill wasn't there.

 

Funny I'm the exact opposite
I root for Fury, as I want to see the meltdown thar follows on here if he wins

However, I don't believe there will be a meltdown and usyk stops him

 

Fury was clearly nervous before the start of the fight (yes - imo). He was serious enough at the start.

Any clowning he did do wasn’t at the expense of him having a better response to Usyk otherwise.

While “clowning”, Fury also held the ropes on several occasions - for leverage in terms of defence and coming off the ropes to throw punches - illegal.

Ali clowned a lot in his second career also - and it was because Ali didn’t have an answer to what was or what had just happened in the moment.

See the Shavers fight for Ali using that diversionary tactic to the hilt - making light of what he couldn’t prevent otherwise.

At the post fight pressed Fury made a point of saying he was clowning a little bit and having “fun” in there (projection of preferred image) and didn’t didn’t know if anyone “noticed” what he clearly wanted them to notice. Lol.

Since then, Fury’s accent on the clowning has been increased and exaggerated.

 

The simple explanation is that he showboats because he's got a large ego, just like so many before him. Boxers have to throw excuses out there for a loss, virtually zero of them don't. They have to find their own personal way to cope with a loss and therefore convince themselves there is room for improvement in the pending rematch and hence have an angle via which to win. It's no big deal. There's nowhere to hide for either as they are about to go again.

 

I root for Usyk but, ironically, that can also cause one to have disproportional concerns for their preferred fighter - entertaining worse case scenarios etc.

Likely or not, my main concern is if Usyk has suddenly aged between fights and lost any focus - he’s definitely on the other side of prime but hopefully (from my POV obviously) he is still basically at the same physical and mental status as he was in the last fight.