Good morning Fergy! Along with Foreman-Lyle it's my favourite non-title heavyweight fight of that decade.
Ali was amazing in the second Norton fight. Possibly the best performance of his second career beside The Rumble In The Jungle.
I have chopped a lot of wood in my life and personally it didn’t do anything I noticed… never understood the hype but I don’t know as much as the guys doing it so who knows.
Ali should’ve been DQ’d in the Frazier rematch lol he would’ve if it was in the establishments best interest IMO.
Shavers worked a farm as a kid growing up. Doing hard manual labor while growing up seems to build a kind of practical strength that no amount of training in a gym gets you for a given weight - I'm not saying powerlifting doesn't build big strength, I'm saying a lean 6", 200lb man who grew up doing ass busting labor on a farm all day is going to have greater practical strength than a lean 6", 200lb powerlifter. I went to college with a dude whose father owned a moving and junk removal company. He'd been doing all the stuff on the back end of the junk hauling business (unloading, transferring, sorting, etc) since he was a kid, and was on the moving jobs since he was about 13. Did back end junk stuff every day after school, worked full time every summer. Anyway, this dude was absurdly freaky strong, had arms and legs like tree trunks. He had never set foot in a gym, but loved to arm wrestle the biggest gym dudes we knew -- never saw him lose.
Totally agree. Powerlifting calls on specific form/executions that often cannot be suitably applied to real life needs. Also, the natural and varied demands of labouring better promote stabilising muscles, efficient integration of specific muscles overall and muscle/strength stamina. Therefore in the performance of manual labouring, one is not just “souping” up just one or a few features without regard to the whole system and how it best operates in holistic terms. I could say, nature and its own miscellaneous demands presenting as one hell of a personal trainer. Yes, I also understand that methodologies for conditioning and prudently building the “right” muscles for the job at hand have allegedly become so much better…but more often than not, the ultimate punch line to all that has been PEDs.
All respect to a knowledgeable member, but powerlifting trains muscles in their most natural movements. Everyone has squatted, pushed, lifted things off the floor. Sprinters do squats for explosive leg power, football players do squats and benches religiously. That said, it is very hard to compare that to a man who's a human baling machine. Earnie was incredible!
Cheers for your respect Rules but I’ll defer to you if there is a deeper analysis to prove that power lifting viably replicates most natural movements. In varied labouring efforts, I’ve seen and had to apply myself, strength in the least ideal scenarios and set ups - none of which I’ve seen necessarily replicated in the gym - but that’s just based on my exposure to same. Of course there are work place guides for due form and execution also - but often, they are simply not possible to ideally apply in certain contexts. Earnie the human baling machine? Lol, I like it. How about the old school manual push mower exercise - favoured my men like Dempsey? Nice just for the newsreel clips, perhaps? - haha. I’ve actually used one of those on a decent sized and slightly overgrown lawn. Hard yakka.